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Since 1980 means 42 Super Bowls. Taking Brady out is not fair--he is part of the equation. (to support your point) I count about 19 Super Bowls total won by teams with non-first rounder QBs. That is nearly half. If you consider that most starting QBs were first rounders, it seems the non-first rounders have a pretty high win percentage.

The NFL did not know either--when you have invited players to the Green Room and they are still undrafted mid third round (like Willis), it shows that nobody really knew how this might play out.

This passage convinces me that Corral was not #1 on the board--they seemed to equate them to a large degree, and as the number stayed at 4, they could back off. When it dropped to 2--Howell and Corral--they started calling.

We were perhaps the most QB needy team. If we had the draft capital, I am confident that we would have taken a QB earlier--we leaped when Howell and Corral fell into our strike zone. Fitterer praised Rhule by saying, "He talked to Billechick and did not raise our offer." (paraphrasing). That meant that we had a draft capital budget, and NE was probably looking for a 2023 second rounder at some point. Rhule stayed firm, because we had a budget that we were sticking to--and he knew that there were 2 QBs on the board. Had the deal fallen through at the end of the third, we could have moved up into the late fourth and STILL landed Howell--possibly both Howell and Corral (nobody knows).

He is---so old that his hair now rests on his shoulders

But he was not 34 when he did those things. According to my smart phone, he will be 35 within a year.

he's 34. Dang

Need a reliable source.

Seriously, I was expecting to trade back, grab LT Penning from N Iowa or a Guard (and go with BC at LT), and then trade up into the early second round for the QB--expecting to get Howell or Corral. The only reason we waited is because we did not have the draft capital after taking Ewonu with no trade back. The way they waited when 4 QBs were falling suggests to me that they did not have a single QB targeted--But to get Corral at the end of round 3? That is a round and a half higher than where we got Clausen and about the same place where we drafted Grier. NOT COMPARING THEM--but demonstrating the value. It really does not matter where they were on our board, by the way, if they don't show up on the field.

He said, "I am not comparing him to Clausen at all..."

Tennessee is a run-first operation and they were the #1 seed. I am not sure that it is my ideal sitaution, but if you can't find a QB that can throw completions to our team then this could be a reaction to that. I am somewhat sure if we had Aaron Rodgers or Allen at QB, we'd have drafted Cross. By the way, who was the OL behind that scenario you mentioned?

I expect Corbett's productivity numbers to increase in a run-first, rpo offense. Corral is starting to make sense.

I think that is the plan

31st ranked OL in 2021: CAROLINA PANTHERS LT Cam Erving | 56.0 LG Michael Jordan | 50.8 C/G Pat Elflien 50.1 RG John Miller | 52.1 RT Taylor Moton | 77.8 Carolina’s offensive line was always going to become an issue given the players they prioritized to acquire in the offseason. Taylor Moton earned a 77.8 PFF grade and was one of the better right tackles in the NFL, but he was the only one of 11 linemen to end with a grade above 67.0. John Miller and Michael Jordan, who played just 21 games combined, allowed 13 sacks from their guard spots, and three different linemen earned PFF pass-blocking grades lower than 40.0. This offensive line performance was a true case of reaping what you sow.---PFF FWIW, Brady Christensen had a rough start and strong finish at T, but his overall PFF score was 61.6--better than 60% of the 2021 starters. Here is what the new acquisitions look like, using PFF scores to gauge: Brady Christensen 61.6 (this does not reflect the growth in 2021; BC ended the season with positive momentum) Bradley Bozeman 73.3 (as center, excellent on double-team blocks) Austin Corbett 68.8 (in a pass-happy offense in LA--more runs would increase rating because he is excellent at reaching second level) Taylor Moton 77.8 Ickey Ekwonu N/A (Best run-blocking LT in college football) Three new linemen, all good to excellent run blocking. Expect improvement from BC from his rookie year, and expect Corbett's effectiveness to increase in a run-first offense. We added D. Foreman as a big RB, CMC should be healthy (and better protected), And expect Tremble to be more active in the run game as a blocker. We had a chance to take the best pass blocking OT in the draft, the most versatile OT in the draft, or the best run blocking OT--we chose the best run-blocker. So if you read the tea leaves, we are going to run the football more. We added D'Onta Foreman, a big bruising back. CMC returns with more support. We kept Thomas (a good blocking TE) and Tremble (a great blocking TE) will be a year older. It makes sense. We have a raw rookie and a bust at QB who throws a lot of pics. putting the ball in CMC's hands and taking it from the QB is smart. If the D plays well, we should stay in games.

Hello! 2017? Is that you?

I mocked him as well. He was just always there and too good to pass up.

In the right system, accuracy and a quick release has been pretty effective.

the S from Penn St. Hartlaub

Fortunately for you they did not show an Adam Sandler movie during this flight or you may have done it.

hard to say because I could not keep up with the injuries and IR etc--most teams keep 8 active on game days, so I am guessing 9 or 10.

I think the Panthers will keep on the 53-man roster 9 offensive linemen. So who is "at risk" of being cut? Cutting Jordan (LG) saves $1m (almost) in cap room. Cutting Daley saves about $1m in cap room. Cutting Erving saves about $2m in cap room. With that in mind, it is likely the following remain on the roster (Bold are projected starters): Bozeman (C, G) Corbett (RG) Ekwonu (LT, G) Chritstensen (T, G) Moton (RT) Elflein (LG, C) May (Swing T, G) D. Brown (RG) Erving (Swing T, G, C) I actually think we will keep Erving because he has experience with all 5 positions and cutting him sends $4m to the dead cap and only saves $2m.

Basically, doing nothing was not an option, and if Corral has a 30% chance of becoming a starting QB, do you do it? I do---the floor is a backup QB--so the cost is minimal, while the payoff is very much higher than what they paid. I am OK with that. I was starting to get pissed that they were not moving up for the QBs in the third round--not sure which I liked hte most, but I kinda wanted Willis. However, I see Corral's upside.

Bears just released Foles, fwiw.

waiting until the end of the third round is not patience? Wouldn't drafting a QB in round 1 have been a "panic desperation move?" I completely disagree with your take on this.

He was aligned with the Steelers through Noll, Cowher, and Tomlin--all covered about a half century. He sees stability in the coach, and I do not think he will impulsively fire a coach (in his mind). He has already demonstrated a willingness to overlook Rhule's nonsense after giving him so much power. "My wife liked Chubba when OKSt played Baylor...so I drafted him." "Hey there Mr. Long Snapper--you've been drafted by the Panthers..." that, along with his coaching hires, 20% of the roster being occupied by Baylor and Temple players, etc. was not enough to signal to Tepper than he may have made a mistake. It seems Rhule is under wraps now--but I really do not know what his area of expertise is--he is not a proven leader, he is not a personnel expert, and he is not a game manager.