MHS831

You are right--my mistake. I was thinking 23-24 instead of 22-23.

I think they gave their firsts and seconds from 2023 and 2024. The first in 2023 is from SF, so it will be late, and it will have to be used for Payton.

Sean, come to a team with a late first this year (which would go to the Saints) and no second, no first or second next year. $160m salary is guaranteed to a 35-year old short qb with a 2022 QB rating of 37.0 (ranked 27th in the league). The other QBs in the division: Herbert and Mahomes--and maybe Carr. Russell Salary and poor performance + no draft picks + elite competition at QB in the division. Sounds too good to be true.

I see him going around 20 or so. I would love him with the 2 seconds.

Probably.

Actually, in the story, his main character, Gregor, I believe, transitions from a human to a giant roach. Not the best metaphor after all.

Want some literary irony? Franz Kafka was a German-speaking Bohemian writer who is famous for his novella, "The Metamorphosis." Metamorphosis means to transition from immaturity to maturity. I used to teach English Lit back in the day. Discuss.

But in the case of Watson and Stafford's contracts, it may be a good thing he was played. As outsiders, we do not know who walked away--if you are in on every deal, you might get played once in a while. Part of it.

But if they allowed the Panthers to talk to him, it seems that the compensation is all that is left to discuss. Maybe the Panthers get the "NFC South" rate.

But then we'd have to not believe this if it was read aloud, or half of it if read silently? I am so confused!

about giving up assets to get a good coach---a good coach gets the most out of players. he has an eye for talent and knows how it fits his system. Better than drafting good players and not knowing how to use them, not developing them. I look at 2 panther second rounders who are not being used to their full potential: Chinn and Marshall. Bring in Payton, and suddenly these players get better. I imagine the plan would be to use the second rounders and the first this year to trade up and grab a QB, giving up this year's third or fourth and next year's first rounder. That would give Payton a young QB to develop and we will have cap room moving forward, so the pick is not that big of a deal. Just analyzing the situation---not as unrealistic as it sounds.

Petitions only show you how many people want something. However, what if 4 people refuse to sign it for every one person who does sign it. You get 200,000 signatures. What does that really mean?

I once started a petition to discontinue all petitions. It did NOT work.

Really good TEs are an improvement, but we have 4 TEs who are OK--so I am not sure if you take a TE later. We really do not have a TE who is an offensive weapon that DCs worry about. I agree with RB--put your $$ in the OL and the RB and the QB get better.

We kept Marty Hurney and let Brandon Beane walk. Not related, but I am still pissed.

If it is true that we do not like this group of first round QBs (TBH, I get that), this pick makes sense. They could sign an unloved veteran QB and use this pick on a stud--If 4 QBs go before the Panthers pick at #9, a stud will be there. Wonder what he could do with Darnold? Before you laugh, read the old Rams and last year's Lions boards about Goff. That could be the plan--a QB whisperer.

One reliable source--who is this Adam Schefter guy?

I do not think they know, but at least it gives us some convo topics and hope.

Mr Scot does his homework so we don't have to!!

I think the most revealing thing about this was that you assumed I meant you. I was simply complimenting the thought process and diligence of Mr. Scot, and sending a jab at the people who tend to be impulsive on here--over the years. If I was targeting you, I would have mentioned your name. I do not care who posts what, to be honest. I just prefer honest statements supported by facts over emotion-fed conjecture.

Ben Johnson would be a solid pick. Another guy with Carolina ties (Asheville Reynolds HS, UNC), fwiw.

This is called homework. Learn to do it before posting, younglings.

He will want 5 years, fully guaranteed, at $250m. To me, that is not worth it. He is an exciting player, but at the QB position, you need consistency over highlights. He has a 62% completion rating and averages less than 200 yards per game. He usually has a solid defense. And then there is the injury--will he be available? Of course, you can ask that of any qb, but Jackson takes chances when he runs.

I sense that it will be Ben Johnson. Not sure why

I don't either (but the question was "who do you want in Carolina?") because if it goes wrong, he would be tarred and feathered. I think Shaw will be a good NFL coach. I think he made Harbaugh look good (along with Luck) at Stanford. He knows Xs and Os, he knows offense, and he knows personnel. I met him on Stanford's campus when I was there for a conference--I was walking with a group of professors by the athletic facility to the SCALE center, and the team was loading the bus to go to the airport--game at Colorado. He (not an assistant, not a manager) was monitoring the process. So introduced myself and started talking to him. Nothing but class. I would hire the man and forget his former gig--but that is just me.