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I need to look into it, but he is injured a lot and he is flagged a lot. I would not pay top dollar.

I was VERY impressed with Walker, and Joe knows they met at the combine. I just do not get how any reporter would get info like this 8 weeks before the draft and have the blessing to publish it. Are they not playing liars dice right now?

Speaking of Gamecocks, there was some fluff piece on my phone that suggested the Panthers could trade Horn-far apart on a contract--Can't find it-==anybody else hear this? If true, this could throw CB into the conversation at 8....

I have stated that he is too risky. my point was this: If you see a guy with his measureables and his "Myles Garrett" qualities he should not be disqualified because he underperformed in college. To play Devil's advocate to your point: Is there proof anyone will be successful as a pass rusher? I get it, and I have stated that I would not eliminate someone based solely on college performance. We have guys who had 18 sacks in college busting and we have (based on my example) guys with 1.5 sacks as a senior in college averaging double digit sacks. My point was do not turn on a guy based on that alone. The higher you draft this guy, the higher the risk--I said morgan cannot afford to make mistakes this year--like when he drafted XL and Brooks last year--one was raw and one was injured. It would be stupid to draft Stewart at 8. However, someone is going to draft him in the top 20, in all likelihood. That team will be taking on less risk than the Panthers at 8, but more than I would take--to your point.

Not being able to find one is not how I define "rare." Say what you mean. I agree with you, but there are more factors than performance in college that indicate professional success, which was my point. LOL

Moving the goal posts are we? You asked for 1 I gave you 1. 2. Odafe Oweh Penn State player who didn't have a sack in his last season, but was drafted by the Ravens in 2022 and had 10 sacks in 2024. I get your point--but I already made a point about the risk and why I would not do it, and then you mention the round which is a statement about risk tolerance.

That is why you have to pass on his potential and take something more established. I have already said that I would not take him at #8---but dropping 20+ pounds can add a lot of speed--but it is still a risk we cannot afford to take. I thought (when I first expressed interest in him at 280) that he was doing what he did at the SR Bowl at nearly 300. He could hold the edge and move inside on some downs. Still, I think sacks are not a good stat because some, like Burns, throw caution to the wind and go for sacks. I have even seen some of these elite pass rushers stop or quit when they get stonewalled, instead of pursuing the play until the whistle. I have seen people get sacks when 2 other teammates pressured the QB to the player who makes the stop as the third to arrive at the party. Pressures is a better stat. asked for one player with double digits sacks who was not a sack master in college, and without digging, I have 2. Linville is basically right and I get the point he is making--but my point was accurate. He asked for one name and I gave him 2 by thinking back and then checking stats. It is not common and we cannot take risks.

I see that, but I am guessing that we will upgrade Robinson and add a 2 gapper. I could be way off, and getting the DL right could be viewed by Morgan as a 2-year process since we have Robinson.

Too much risk--but I see what they are talking about. I have not heard the cliche "workout warrior" any more, and he could be just that. If he is anything close to Myles Garrett, you take him. If he is anything like YGM, you don't.

I think he is one of the "4 blue chip players" in this draft the scout was talking about. (Carter, Hunter, Graham, and the fourth could be any number of players-personally, I am thinking there are only 3) Graham is the safe bet, and you run to the podium with that pick, even though nobody runs to the podium any more.

I don't know how I feel about that. He turned heads at the SR bowl and looked very fast in his new body (265 lbs). He turned heads at the combine. I figured he would shoot up boards. When asked about his sack total, he called himself, "an all-around player who focused on being the best player for his team, not just chasing sacks," fwiw. Oh, and another example of a player with no real production in college who had double digit sacks in the NFL: Odafe Oweh Penn State player who didn't have a sack in his last season, but was drafted by the Ravens in 2022 and had 10 sacks in 2024.

I get the risk and probably, if I were the GM, would not pull the trigger on a player with those stats in the first round. We can't gamble during days 1 and 2 this year. If he is there in the third, yes.

You mean like Danielle Hunter who had 4.5 sacks in three years at LSU and has had 37 sacks over the last three years in the NFL? In fact, he has 99.5 for his career. I can go down the list with double digit sacks in college and give you a list of busts. Stewart has dropped 30 pounds. He has athleticism.

Will be interesting to see how he rises after the combine. In the COMBINE PREDICTIONS thread, I predicted he would have a great combine and the Panthers would draft him--it seemed like a stretch at the time--

At worst he becomes an upgrade to Wonnum. At best, he becomes a poor man's Myles Garrett. His ceiling is high, his productivity is low. HOWEVER--it works both ways. If players are All Americans in college and the bust in the NFL, there are a ton of UDFAs that become stars. In other words, I would not put too much on college performance when evaluating any player. I like him--put him in the Sawyer (Ohio St), Jackson (Ark) category, but Stewart is the most impressive athlete.

Anyone correct my logic here: If the draft is loaded at RB and the position is somewhat devalued as a result, why would you tender Blackshear? Even if you want him, would you not let him test the market and return to play for minimum? If he leaves, you have a real chance of upgrading for less $$.

If the Saints or Bucs paid Fitterer to screw this team up he would not have done a worse job.

That bothers me too. With Clowney and Wonnum, he would have a year to add 10-15 lbs and hopefully, become a three down edge, but that is all he is right now--you are right. This paragraph gave me hope--(NFL Draft Buzz, fwiw): "Pearce profiles as an immediate impact pass-rush specialist with the ceiling to develop into a complete three-down edge defender. His elite get-off and bend profile perfectly for today's pass-happy NFL, where his ability to threaten the edge will command attention from day one. Smart defensive coordinators will initially deploy him in obvious passing situations while developing his run defense..." then compares him to Burns. Let's just hope that Graham falls to us or we get a trade down offer.

I was hurt. It was like being hit in the stomach with a sledge hammer.

I would drive off with a Griswold wagon.

We have to hit on those first 3 picks. My mind (right now, subject to change often): 1. (I would love to trade back, but for this exercise) Edge (unless DT Graham is there) James Pearce, UT. 4.47 40? Will add 10 lbs. and be a situational pass rusher early on, but he will be a 3-down player soon. 2. NT Alfred Collins Texas (before free agency, a stud NT beside Brown and, right now, Robinson would make us MUCH BETTER. 6' 6" 330 and runs a sub 5.0 40. I think he is a perfect NT for Evero.) 3. TE Mason Taylor LSU (Very smooth player with good hands. Jason Taylor's son. would start day 1, and with Sanders, we might not miss the lack of a #1 WR as much.) 4. S/OT 5. OT/S

I hate the time between the draft and late July. It is like we are children opening our gifts Christmas morning and we cant play with them for 3 months.

We have so many needs, talking before free agency is our preseason. Once we know which needs are met, it will be easier. I had a friend who needed a new vehicle. He and his wife just had a baby and they only had a pickup and a small car with 300K miles that just broke down. He went to the dealership knowing his needs. He explained it this way, "I had to walk past these cars that I always wanted--my dream cars. Before I knew it, I was driving home in a brand new green mustang, trying to think of ways to make the decision sensible. A week later, I took the mustang back, traded it in, lost $5k, and bought the mini van we needed." I think about that when I see players like that--what are our most pressing, essential needs? What are our secondary needs? What are our wants?

Next week? Wow. This thing is moving fast. I think the extended college season has our clocks screwed up.

I agree. Offense needs for depth or starters: RB, WR, T, TE, C Defense: DE, NT, Edge, LB, CB, S, S, S.