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looks like the kind of receiver we'd really be going for. he's got that smitty fight in him and on most of his catches there's no one around him. unguardable? looks like it. he gets a lot of separation.

this guy is seriously fun for me to watch. day 3 would be a steal imo.

ok, this thread has run its course.

Scout team would have been busy all year already. We're only a couple months away from the next draft. I'd say they would need a full year of college ball to get a solid idea of what the field looks like. If you're starting your evaluations now, you're way behind.

Only trade for picks, please. Not known unreliable players for known unreliable players. Just once I'd like to come out on the winning side of a trade

if he's not under contract here there's no reason to try and keep him around unless you just need another body at WR. both TMJ and chark are completely expendable at this point and this coaching staff and even the front office has really invested nothing in them. it shouldn't be difficult to at least duplicate their production with joes you pick up off the street or late in the draft or even as a udfa. we know these two guys and i think it's enough to see that they aren't really worth the bother at this point. look elsewhere.

agreed. with us you're hoping that the owner doesn't continue being a dumbass. in washington you're hoping the new owners don't become dumbasses. washington did seem like a much better situation than here, but still there's a lot of unknowns there. the snyder stench may take a few years to air out. quinn pick as HC seems like a panic pick. and then adding in kingsbury seems like an odd choice. i think they might have been trying the genius strategy we used last year in trying to get as many diverse mentalities in as possible. bottom dweller franchises tend to stay that way for a while for a reason. every once in a while one breaks out. i'm just hoping that our blind squirrel making decisions this year falls on an acorn.

i think people just like the idea of him as HC. he's not eager, that's for sure. that's a red flag. he's looking for the most ideal situation and i just don't think he's ever going to find it.

it could be that it takes a half season or so for us to get stuff worked out. bucs got off to a relatively slow start with their offense before it started clicking. i expect a positive transformation. i don't expect it to be quick, though.

you have to imagine that he really just doesn't want to be a HC. after twice pulling out that would kind of seal the deal for me in the future. if you're looking for a coach, don't sit and hope for him. just get a guy who isn't wishywashy on the decision. get a guy who who knows he wants the job.

sorry for what you're going through but glad you're taking that on for your brother. as far as churches go, i know a lot of them are dealing with, ultimately, limited real estate (so to speak) so they limit plots to members of the churches themselves and their families. there's not a lot of newer churches that are doing this kind of thing anymore, though, so i imagine that spaces available are kind of running out. i would just do what you can. speak with the churches themselves and see what you can work out and hopefully one of them will, especially since you have family there already.

because the discussions always ends up taking a tinderbox bent. you want to debate or rehash all this stuff then take it somewhere else. same talking points keep getting brought up as if no one has heard it before. it's a constant beating of a dead horse. more, it's not football.

keep it to football and it's ok. pretty simple.

quit derailing the thread

stuff he said heading into tampa pointed in the direction of being pretty adaptive and opportunistic...run if it's working, pass if it's working. with his emphasis on protecting the ball, i'd count on a lot of running and a lot of shorter high percentage passes. but i think he's also going to be pushing the run a good bit. the goal, i think, is to be able to be balanced and proficient in passing game and run game so you can switch to or lean on either one as needed. if it goes the way it did in tampa, he's going to keep pushing some elements of it when it isn't working all that well until it is working.

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2nd thoughts about leggette if he can't get separation I don't want him.

he doesn't put bryce into that category. the rest of the team is who he was calling out. they don't have that fight in them.

you might be confused because you are not dan. the real dan does not view bryce as a mistake (which was part of the reason he was hired), neither does the owner of the team (which is why he hired someone who doesn't believe bryce was a mistake) and canales was given the job because of what he said he would be able to do with bryce.

what i've seen, though, is a crew who do nothing but poo all over any comment at all that comes across as positive or hopeful. doubts are fine and to be expected, but to just come out and attack any remotely positive comment or take is just not necessary. some absolutely hate everything the panthers do now. i get that and it's probably deserved. but for those who are trying to find and may have found reasons to be hopeful, it's just not necessary. you may not be one of the miserable ones i was talking about, but there are a few who have been that. the main thing i was addressing, though, is i think there are some who want to feel hopeful and are struggling to and i was just giving them permission. and they should feel free to do that without having someone who hasn't seen a reason to be hopeful attacking their traces of optimism.

if canales can do what he's supposedly done and can do, then he will be 1) helping bryce improve what he does already and 2) scheme around what bryce does and doesn't do well. if the deep ball is a problem for bryce, canales will scheme around it and if canales is good at what he's supposed to be doing, it will work. basically the deep ball is not a problem for me. getting bryce coached up and the offense schemed around him is what i'm looking for.