Trai Turner - Kony Ealy

[caatfan]

These two almost look like they could swap positions.

[Snake]

I know you were just joking around, but that's not always true about punters. Pat O' Donnell, the 6th round punter out of Miami chosen by the Bears, got 23 reps on the bench press at the combine. To put that into perspective, Jadeveon Clowney? 21 reps. Kony Ealy? 22 reps. Trai got 25, but still, some of these punters are strong dudes.

Was that at 225 or 195? They allow some groups lower weight.

[setzer2030]

Was that at 225 or 195? They allow some groups lower weight.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2059113-punter-pat-odonnell-bench-pressed-more-than-jadeveon-clowney-at-nfl-combine

 

Had to double check, but it was 225. Impressive.

[CPcavedweller]

The speed of the game is getting faster. That said, there are still spots where brute force and size still matter. You still have to have some of that speed, but you must be large and in charge as well.

Eventually, you'll just line up and run straight up the gut to combat the sideline to sideline speed.

[CPcavedweller]

Was that at 225 or 195? They allow some groups lower weight.

At any rate, ends and linemen with lower reps usually have longer arms. I'd venture a guess to say that there is a statistical correlation between length and reps and that scouts do not measure based on one number alone.

[iamhubby1]

Eventually, you'll just line up and run straight up the gut to combat the sideline to sideline speed.

It used to be size was the measuring stick. Defenses starting getting bigger to stop teams that could run. So Offenses got faster to counter the bigger defenses. Now offenses are getting bigger again to combat the speed on the defenses.

It's an ever changing world. And football is no different.

[Snake]

At any rate, ends and linemen with lower reps usually have longer arms. I'd venture a guess to say that there is a statistical correlation between length and reps and that scouts do not measure based on one number alone.

really bench press is not all that good at showing real world strength anyway. Looking at squats and power clean would be more useful.

[Biggdaddi1022]

these guys are going to be a saving grace for us!

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[CPcavedweller]

It used to be size was the measuring stick. Defenses starting getting bigger to stop teams that could run. So Offenses got faster to counter the bigger defenses. Now offenses are getting bigger again to combat the speed on the defenses.

It's an ever changing world. And football is no different.

The continuum is clear and the equilibrium point changes.

[CPcavedweller]

really bench press is not all that good at showing real world strength anyway. Looking at squats and power clean would be more useful.

"Explosiveness" versus brute force is all. My point is that there are two lines on a graph, one represents arm length and the other represents reps. I'd be willing to bet that the equilibrium point decreases as arm length increases.

[Snake]

"Explosiveness" versus brute force is all. My point is that there are two lines on a graph, one represents arm length and the other represents reps. I'd be willing to bet that the equilibrium point decreases as arm length increases.

Bench press does not show brute force either. The muscles used in that exercise is the pectoral followed by the triceps and minor back muscles and ligaments. Not many real world movements come from the pectoral muscles. Most football movements come from the distal parts of the body and are followed up by the superior. So a power clean would show both explosiveness and power better than any other exercise.

[Machete]

Bench press does not show brute force either. The muscles used in that exercise is the pectoral followed by the triceps and minor back muscles and ligaments. Not many real world movements come from the pectoral muscles. Most football movements come from the distal parts of the body and are followed up by the superior. So a power clean would show both explosiveness and power better than any other exercise.

Agreed on the power clean as being the best measure of explosiveness and strength but it also has a lot to do with having great form. But I would hope/expect potential professional athletes would have exquisite form, especially in exercises as useful as the power clean and jerk, squat, dead lift, and bench press.

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