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That's it, I'm making it official


Matthias

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I'm officially on the trade Newton bandwagon.  Sometimes you have to make the hard decisions, but I just don't see him having any Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady success, year in and out.  At best he will have McNabb, Culpepper, Jeff Garcia success.  We would pretty much have to build a super team around him to have great success.  We would have to build a "2000 Raven's" defense, give him super receivers and a super O-line before we are contenders every year.  Well, if I got to do all that, I'm sure I would be contenders with any game manager QB behind the line.  

 

With this coaching staff on board, Cam will never do anything.  I'm starting to wonder if Cam even wants to be a consistent passer, or does he simply want to run for a hundred yards every game.  I'm tired of it all.  I said it before, the pocket passer still rule in this league, and that isn't about to change.  It's possible when you have an athletic QB, management tends to not put pieces around you to help you out.  They don't get you a good LT.  They don't give you 5 receiver sets and short quick routes.   I mean come on, where are our 5 receiver sets?  Where are our quick, short routes?  Also, flip is up with our screen game, having Cam turn around a couple of times before dropping the ball off to Stew?  This offense pretty much look like Chud 2.0 with all these read options, which cost us points by the way on that fumble near the goal line.  I'm surprise that doesn't happen more with that play around the league.  However in our case, I wish it did happen more.  So we can put that play in the garbage right where it belongs.  

 

All in all, in my opinion, we should trade Newton now (not now actually right now, but in the offseason).  That is our best option, because I don't see him ever learning things like consistently stepping up in the pocket.  I said we should have let Hardy walk in the offseason, and look at how that cost us.  We are most likely not going to resign him, so it has turned out to be a big waste of money.  In this case, we need to trade Newton, and get the most we can for him.  The only way I would be on board with Newton long term, is if we hired a "Pro-offensive genius" as OC or HC.  Somebody that will instantly drop all the gimmicks, and tell Cam to only run as an absolute last option.  I wouldn't be too mad if he threw in a "COUPLE" of read options or designed runs, but that is the absolute MAX each game.  Give me a retired Manning at HC, maybe a David Shaw, maybe.  Shoot, Jim Harbaugh will be a free agent soon, I would throw all my money at him. (Though I would be sad to see the 4-3 defense go.  I'm a 4-3 baby, but I will say if he could build a 3-4 with players similar to the 49ers, I won't complain one bit)

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i'm not convinced newton is the goat that a lot of nuthuggers think he is and even i couldn't finish reading thru the first paragragh.

 

 

No poo, because it's DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

 

NFL records[edit] Rookie records[edit]
  • 2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers
  • 2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051), 2011
  • First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs.Green Bay Packers[81]
  • First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
  • First rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
  • Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush).
  • 2nd most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
  • Along with Andy Dalton, the two make the first pair of rookie QB's to make the Pro Bowl.
  • Most total yards by a rookie quarterback: 4,784.
Records[edit]
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals
  • Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[82]
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first career start, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals
  • Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games
  • First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers[81]
  • Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals, vs. Green Bay Packers, and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars)
  • First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[83]
  • Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Second player in NFL history with 20+ pass TDs and 10+ rush TDs in a season, joining Kordell Stewart ('97)
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 10+ rush TDs in a season
  • First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 500+ rush yards in a season
  • Had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in the same game eight times, tying the NFL single-season record – previously accomplished by Steve Grogan of the New England Patriots in 1976 and Daunte Culpepper of the Minnesota Vikings in 2002
  • Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
  • First QB in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in first two seasons
  • First player in NFL history to have over 250 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards with a passing TD and rushing TD in a game (vs. Falcons on September 12, 2012 - 287 yards passing & 2 TDs, 116 yds rushing & 1 TD and vs. Bengals on October 11, 2014)
  • First player to have 30 passing TDs and 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
  • Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)
  • Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass TDs in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning ('99)
  • Second most combined passing & rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner)
  • First player in NFL history with 50 passing TDs and 25 Rushing TDs in his first three seasons
  • First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons
Carolina Panthers franchise records[edit]
  • Rookie season quarterback records: completions (310), yards (4,051), passing touchdowns (21), completion percentage (60%), passer rating (84.5)
  • Highest average yards per carry in a season (5.83 in 2012)
  • Longest offensive scoring play (91-yard pass) to Brandon LaFell, December 24, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
  • Second rookie to make Pro Bowl (with Steve Smith in 2001)
  • First Panther to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year
  • Most passing attempts without an interception (176)
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