Eagles and Bills: Major Trade

[gettlemanjack]

NFL.com:

"It was essentially a salary cap dump ... The fact they got back a promising young defensive starter almost feels like a bonus. McCoy is on the books for $24.25 million over the next three years. Alonso is due $1.7 million over the next two seasons.

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Alonso is also joining a better organization and a better linebacker group than the one he left. Mychal Kendricks and Alonso should be one of the fastest interior linebacker duos in the league, assuming Alonso recovers well from last July's ACL surgery.

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DeMeco Ryans : The trusty inside linebacker is likely the next Eagles veteran to be let go. He is coming off a torn Achilles' tendon and due a huge salary.

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Philadelphia's anticipated release of pass rusher Trent Cole will net them $8 million in cap space, putting them $40 million under the salary cap. McCoy had an $11.95 million cap number, and the Bills will now pay his $9.5 million salary. In short: Philadelphia has a truckload of money to re-sign the players they want ( Jeremy Maclin ?) and spend in free agency. And Chip Kelly is not afraid to spend

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LeSean McCoy : He will keep his salary, but he will have to try to replicate his production with an inferior offensive line. New Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman loves to run the ball, but Buffalo is learning a brand new scheme again. And they are still searching for a quarterback. It's a step down"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000476256/article/winners-and-losers-from-lesean-mccoy-trade

[RJK]

now if only my bills could find a QB

[TheSpecial1]

Alonso is very Kuechly-esque.

 

That was just terrible blocking.

[O-Ther]

The bigger question is which guy is gonna have a lasting effect for their respective squad? The Bills had a Top 5 defense without Kiko in the line up BUT how long does Shady have before wear and tear starts to take over? Odds are The Eagles are the winner of this trade. They unloaded 12 million and got a potential franchise player on defense for years to come.

 

I get what you're saying. I just feel it's easier to find a Kiko Alonso, CJ Mosely, Bobby Wagner, Brian Cushing, James Laurainitus type of middle/inside linebacker than finding a LeSean McCoy type of running back. Last one that comes to mind is Chris Johnson is his CJ2K days.

[O-Ther]

It's actually the other way around. Three-down LBs don't exactly grow on trees, especially durable ones. Shady is special but by 30 there's a good chance he'll be bouncing from team to team. He's only 2-3 years from that.

 

But Kiko wasn't durable last year. Ripped up ACL. The other LBs I mentioned also have had severe injuries except Mosely (rookie year). They also stay on the field on 3rd down to the best of my knowledge.

 

[O-Ther]

Granted, Kiko missed all of 2014 because of an ACL injury but that's my point. We've been blessed with Kuechly. Talents like Willis, Lee, Wagner, Cushing, etc have experienced some drawbacks. That said, they represent the top echelon of LBs in the game today. Teams like San Diego, Chicago, Oakland, New York, Green Bay, Atlanta, Tennessee, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Washington, etc are all in the market for a young guy like Alonso or Kuechly or Wagner.

 

Absolutely top tier LBs are hard to find, but top tier RBs imo are harder still. Can only think of the Steelers, Chiefs, Seahawks, Cowboys, and Vikings where McCoy would not be an improvement over OR give the same level of production as what was there already.

[rscott94]

The Bills stole Shaddy.. 

[gettlemanjack]

more reactions on a Bills forum:

Somebody kill me please , this move just killed the confidence I had in this team

Wow . I hope no . . . Just . . . . No !!! If this is true, then I hope there is something coming back with Shady . No disrespect to him , but this would be a horrible trade if it is straight up player for player .

This is crazy. . . The draft is coming up . . . BTW the best draft for running backs in the last 10 years probably . Why do we always choose to do things like this when it isn ' t the right time . . . If we traded Kiko for Foles , I could see the move , there aren ' t many QB ' s in the draft this year and Foles is inexpensive . Trading a quality 3 down LB and paying top dollar for the player you get in return just doesn ' t make a lot of sense to me . McCoy is a very good player but in the grand scheme of things , how many great seasons does he have left ??? He is 27 when the season starts . . . He might give us 3 good seasons. . . Kiko would likely given us twice that many seasons . If we wanted a back that bad we could have thrown money at Murray who is the same age and will likely have 2 - 3 good seasons I him . You said there is no guarantee we would get Murray , I disagree , there aren ' t many teams willing to dump 11 mil per on a RB.

McCoy only averaged a bit over four ypc last year , and was pretty well shut down in several games ( Bills better continue working on that OL ) . Not bashing him - - - I just don ' t see the value in the position matching that of a promising linebacker in today ' s NFL . Especially when this year ' s draft is so deep at the RB position .

i was thinking from the end of the season that the Eagles were going to cut McCoy anyways .

McCoy will be 27 . . so we will be lucky to get 3 good seasons out of him

Saw A possibility of Kiko to Philadelphia but for Nick Foles

My problem with this deal isn ' t getting McCoy it ' s paying top dollar for him . We ' re always sell low and buying high . Complementary moves can still make this trade a success, but I ' m puzzled

Whaley keeps paying double for the flashy toys .

Buying a Porche would also be cool but not if you pay 2 mil for it . I want the Bills to get a player like Lynch for a 4 th . Not trade our up and coming LB for a 10 mil contract. I want for once to not overpay .

Ask the Vikings how little 1500 all purpose yards matters when translating that into wins. Three things matter when it comes to being a good team : a good defense , a good quarterback , and a smart offensive scheme. Playmakers at Rb are luxuries

I don ' t freaking believe this . . . An every down Lber that was pretty much rookie of the year and had an outstanding season at his position . . . and we trade it for an aging running back . This cant be real life . I am done with Whaley if this happens

We should have a pick or two coming back in this trade .

This is a terrible move

this is why we are so bad. . . . we put too much value into Rbs

There is no doubt McCoy is great , but he has some wear and tear on him now . There is a reason that RBs are like the shortest lasting position in the league . Kiko is just a killer. I also don ' t care that our linebackers had an OK season . Kiko was better in coverage then they were . Now we have zero depth at Lber . ... They could have drafted a RB. They could have picked up a RB in FA . Instead they trade away our best LBer for 12 mil in salary more then half aged RB.

What an awful trade . We could have gotten a very good RB in the 2 nd - 3 rd Round - who is 5 years younger and doesn ' t take up a third of our available cap space . Between this trade and the probably loss of Jerry Hughes , this team has taken a huge nosedive over the last 2 weeks . Yuck !

How long is he going to be good for ? 2 maybe 3 years? He is 27 and not many running backs do well once they hit 30 . He is in years that he will start to decline . Kiko is just getting started and doesn' t cost 12 mil to the cap. Plenty of running backs can be had without trade and without paying 12 mil . They may not be the best but we don ' t need the best .

This trade is more handicapped than the Watkins trade up . . . And that one had full blown Down Syndrome . . .

I ' ll just ask again : why wouldn ' t we have just drafted a running back in one of the deepest rb drafts in years? Here ' s the bills : in a terribly weak qb draft they draft a qb , and in a deep rb draft they trade for a rb . . . . . Down syndrome doesn ' t go far enough

Trading Kiko for a QB would make sense , but this deal is just unacceptable.

Bye bye Hughes . The cap hit makes this effectively a Hughes and Alonso for McCoy trade

Watch Hughes and Spiller sign with Philly now . . . McCoy for Kiko , Hughes , and Spiller . . .

I couldn ' t hate this trade more if I tried .

Awful trade , one of the worst in Bills history . No explanation for this . No excuse . just awful

Terrible trade

this is a huge blunder . WHAT THE ****

IF Whaley did this on his own he should be gone .

I ' m kinda thinkin ' fire Whaley now

100%. . . bad , bad bad

[O-Ther]

While I concede there, the NFL is a passing league nowadays. In addition, Buffalo has a poo OL themselves. This is the equivalent of drafting Calvin Johnson to Oakland. The true value lies in a LB who can cover TEs, WRs and RBs in open space. This where I believe The Bills fugged up. Buffalo had a very good RB in Spiller but their offense still sucked. Acquiring Shady does nothing for EJ Manuel and Rex Ryan.

 

And who's a better RB at receiving out of the backfield than McCoy? Not DeMarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Adrian Peterson. Only 2 I can think of lately are LeVeon Bell and Jamaal Charles. I concede I don't know about how Buffalo's offensive line play is, but I still can't consider it a bad thing that the Bills have a rare weapon now.

[TheRumGone]

I bet shady is so fuging pissed.

I'm moving to buffalo??? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

The decor or the ambience shady

[O-Ther]

I bet shady is so fuging pissed.

I'm moving to buffalo??? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

The decor or the ambience shady

 

Probably wondering why he was traded to a Canadian team

 

[Kevin Greene]

Long term the Iggles just ripped off the Bills.

But if you look short term and the recipe Rex Ryan used to lead the Jets to 2 straight AFC Championship games this trade makes sense. 

Thomas Jones and Ladanian Tomlinson ran point for the Jets Mark Sanchez led offense and an attacking defense to within one win of the Super Bowl.

Twice.

[O-Ther]

And it'll be interesting to see how good Kiko will be without Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams keeping blockers off of him.

[O-Ther]

Long term the Iggles just ripped off the Bills.

But if you look short term and the recipe Rex Ryan used to lead the Jets to 2 straight AFC Championship games this trade makes sense. 

Thomas Jones and Ladanian Tomlinson ran point for the Jets Mark Sanchez led offense and an attacking defense to within one win of the Super Bowl.

Twice.

 

Pie for Iggles