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TheNewStandard Newbie

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Every ncaa team also has two starting wr. That doesn't mean they all graduate or have nfl ability. Your argument is beyond dumb.

I hear ya,...just know that there may not be a OT in this draft that starts this year.

So why should we draft a guy that we know wont start for a year or two and go for a guy that will definitely start this year and find an OT in the later rounds that we can build up and gain some cohesion with his line mates?

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Every ncaa team also has two starting wr. That doesn't mean they all graduate or have nfl ability. Your argument is beyond dumb.

I have to comment again about your statement...WRs can be found in UDFA and the bargain bin...see Corey Brown etc. heck...we were dominating teams once our rag tag line got healthy and comfortable and Tolbert and Stew got healthy.

dumb is a term used for thise who cant speak. GFY

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I don't think the team sees Oher or Martin as long-term solutions. Just look at their contracts for proof of that. If one or both works out, fantastic! But, I don't think we'll pass on OTs that we like simply because we have Oher and Martin.

Very well put.

I think what OP may be on to is the fact that DG grabbed Oher and Martin so he is not boxed in at taking (reaching) for a tackle at 25. DG keeps harping about BPA. At the end of the day BPA is the guy available at your pick who you think can help you win the most games with him on the roster.

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Here is what I see as illogical.  Everyone thinking that we are drafting a LT because Oher and Martin are suspect.  A rookie LT probably does not help in 2015 very much. 

 

Another illogical assumption people make:  We draft and give 4-year contracts to players based on 2015 needs.  SInce rookies often take a season or two to develop, that is just plain stupid at some positions, like OT.

 

Gettlemen has said that he is drafting for 2016, not 2015, and frankly, any good GM should draft by anticipating needs at positions that take time to season players.  OT, DE, and WR are positions that typically take a year or two.  

 

So if you are looking at OTs who can play right away, any in the first round are probably going to struggle.  However, if you have a T who can hold down the fort until a developmental OT gets his strength and technique down, you take one a bit later. 

 

That is not to say that we won't draft a T in the first, but it is probably to say that the OT in the first round will hopefully not play until 2016.,

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I don't think the team sees Oher or Martin as long-term solutions.  Just look at their contracts for proof of that.  If one or both works out, fantastic!  But, I don't think we'll pass on OTs that we like simply because we have Oher and Martin.

yes, we need a stop gap as we train younger ot's.Now is the time .

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yes, we need a stop gap as we train younger ot's.Now is the time .

its all anout wether the FO see's some players they like and want to bring into the fold. Thats what its all about.

Thee are starting playmakers do ne drafted on both sides of the ball in the first few rounds...starting caliber.

The NFCS isnt getting any better and yes, now would be an appropriate time to grab some future starters who may not be ready for a couple years.

We have to get some offensive playmakers And shore up our run defense now and Id wager thats our thinking going into this draft.

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its all anout wether the FO see's some players they like and want to bring into the fold. Thats what its all about.

Thee are starting playmakers do ne drafted on both sides of the ball in the first few rounds...starting caliber.

The NFCS isnt getting any better and yes, now would be an appropriate time to grab some future starters who may not be ready for a couple years.

We have to get some offensive playmakers And shore up our run defense now and Id wager thats our thinking going into this draft.

 

it has less  to do with the NFCS than it has to do with short term older OL players who will not be here long.starting caliber doesn't have to mean starting this season.

 

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it has less to do with the NFCS than it has to do with short term older OL players who will not be here long.starting caliber doesn't have to mean starting this season.

The playoffs start with the NFCS and from there its anyones game.

Yes...we need some true talent on the line, in the secondary, in rush defense and some talent at thr receiver position...none if which are necessarily needed to win the division.

Most of our posiions of need, we are buying in FA and waiting on our kind of guys to be drafted for sustainability.

luckily, this draft is mostly about insurance rather that need

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