Redskins suing fans

[Bobby]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/AR2009090203887.html?hpid=topnews

Wow.

[Darth Biscuit]

That sounds like a PR nightmare for the 'Skins... they should have worked things out. A contract is a contract, but there's got to be some middle ground... at the same time can she not sell the contract?

[Captroop]

As I said in the other Redskins thread, the skins are esentially cashing in twice on the same ticket. They sue the fans for more than the value of their contract, THEN they turn around and break their own policy by selling the defaulted tickets to the scalpers.

[OneBadassCat]

Wow redskins FO sucks. They could have easily just said its all good and comp her seats. She's been there since the 1960's, she shouldn't be paying for tickets anymore. I'm convinced Richardson has comped that black guy with blue lightning hair. You know the one I'm talking about.

[MadHatter]

You people do realize that the NFL is a business. These people signed contracts and now you think she should be comped tickets...or not have to pay for them anymore.

I feel for them in tough economic times, but you will be sued by any other company if you default on a debt obligation or contract.

[Hawk]

suppose it is no different than anything else that you sign on the dotted line...but you'd think after so many years she'd get a break...and the other thing is, they resell the tickets anyway and still make their money...so it's not as if her breaking the contract came at a huge cost to the team!

[Happy Panther]

The idea of a 10 year contract with no breakage clause is silly and not something i would sign. Is this typical? I also wonder of the leagility of charging for the ticket twice. Sucks for her i guess.

[Purity-Control]

You people do realize that the NFL is a business. These people signed contracts and now you think she should be comped tickets...or not have to pay for them anymore.

I feel for them in tough economic times, but you will be sued by any other company if you default on a debt obligation or contract.

100% agree

The Redskins just can't comp her either, opening the flood gates to everyone else who says they can't pay.

Best thing she can hope for is a easy payment plan.

[cookinwithgas]

When I first started reading, I was like "Waaah too bad people" but the more I read the more I thought, "Wow! The Redskins suck as bad as I always thought they did."

[MadHatter]

When I first started reading, I was like "Waaah too bad people" but the more I read the more I thought, "Wow! The Redskins suck as bad as I always thought they did."

Why do they suck? Because they have signed contracts that are being broken? Because they have legitimate and legal receivables that are being defaulted on?

I am in finance for a Fortune 500 company and believe me, we sue customers all the time for non-payment. If you don't, why would anyone honor the contract.

The Redskins and the NFL are a for-profit business. They will operate (if smart and fically sound) just like any other business. They are not here for our enjoyment.

The produce a product that the consumer wants. The consumer pays them for that product. If there is a contract and the consumer does not pay, the consumer is sent to collections and ultimately taken to court. This is the way business works.

[cookinwithgas]

Is it more fun to watch It's a Wonderful Life when you are rooting for Mr. Potter?

[natty]

Good old stone cold capitalism.

"But now the guy's got to come up with Paulie's money every week. No matter what. Business bad? F--k you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? F--k you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning, huh? F--k you, pay me."

[Skew]

Considering the Skins were selling their own tickets to scalpers makes even more fuged up.

'Skins sold seats directly to scalpers

Posted by Mike Florio on September 1, 2009 10:50 PM ET

In what could be merely the first example of a trend that many NFL fans have suspected for the past few years, the Washington Redskins admit that "thousands" of general admission tickets were sold in 2008 directly to brokers, who then resold the tickets on the "secondary market" (which of course is a fancy business school term for "they scalped them")

According to the Washington Post, Redskins general counsel David Donovan said that the sales to brokers were discovered earlier this year, as part of an internal audit of the 2008 ticket contracts. Roughly 15 brokering companies were involved.

Donovan said that the employees responsible for the sales have been disciplined.

"Somebody in the ticket office was doing something they shouldn't have been doing, and when it was discovered, it was all dealt with," Redskins Senior Vice President Karl Swanson told the Post. "If the story is, this is a scandal, uncovered by Redskins, verified by the Post, or whatever, yeah, we're telling you: People got tickets who shouldn't have gotten tickets, and they were dealt with."

Some Redskins ticket office employees also reportedly were selling tickets directly to fans, via StubHub, at higher than face value.

Though it appears that the behavior was not condoned by the team (instead, owner Daniel Snyder reportedly was "livid" when he learned of the activity), the mere fact that it happened will continue to fuel suspicions that other NFL teams are engaged in similar behavior, either deliberately or via rogue employees who are using the secondary market as a way to generate supplemental income.

All too often, we've heard accounts of single-game tickets being sold out the moment that they supposedly became available, with seats simultaneously showing up for sale via the franchise's official "secondary market" partner. Our guess is that more and more investigations into such arrangements are coming, and that not every team will be able to show that the sales occurred without the franchise's knowledge or involvement.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/01/skins-sold-seats-directly-to-scalpers/

[TyHillPanthers]

Good old stone cold capitalism.

"But now the guy's got to come up with Paulie's money every week. No matter what. Business bad? F--k you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? F--k you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning, huh? F--k you, pay me."

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