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Mo Williams wants back in Cleveland??


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Rumor is there is mutual interest from Mo and from the powers that be in Cleveland to reunite Mo and LBJ.

Their roster has nothing that I want except for the players we all know they are not giving up. They also have no draft picks since they traded everything away to get Love and Mosgov. I only see a way where we use a third team to make it work. Boston and/or Denver might help facilitate something

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Rumor is there is mutual interest from Mo and from the powers that be in Cleveland to reunite Mo and LBJ.

Their roster has nothing that I want except for the players we all know they are not giving up. They also have no draft picks since they traded everything away to get Love and Mosgov. I only see a way where we use a third team to make it work. Boston and/or Denver might help facilitate something

This is all great except..

Mo is a UFA.

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Rumor is there is mutual interest from Mo and from the powers that be in Cleveland to reunite Mo and LBJ.

Their roster has nothing that I want except for the players we all know they are not giving up. They also have no draft picks since they traded everything away to get Love and Mosgov. I only see a way where we use a third team to make it work. Boston and/or Denver might help facilitate something

Mo is a UFA

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oh my god, so we just flipped Neal's expiring for Mo's expiring and Troy Daniels?

wtf..

Do you remember the end of the Gary Neal Era or did you block it from memory?

Daniels is an expiring this year and he's playing for peanuts. Could push PJ for time behind Henderson.

Cho won that deal going away even if injuries did the team in.

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For just a brief period of time before fatigue got the better of the elder Mo Williams, we saw good PG play in Charlotte.  Such a nice thing to witness, even if it was fleeting. 

We also saw it from Kemba before he hurt his knee and got rushed back in a desperate move to make the playoffs. You even said it yourself! 

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that is correct. Also a fleeting moment.  

Maybe, but because of the timing of the injury, we will never know. 

What both Mo and Kemba showed was that in order to be successful they had to put the team on their back and outside of a freak of nature like LeBron no other player can shoulder that much responsibility for an extended period of time.

I'll admit, Kemba is frustrating, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't love the prospect of trading up using kemba for a Russell or Mudiay, but a change in point guard wouldn't fix any current problems.

With Al Jefferson at 50%, the team has literally no go-to scoring option. MKG can't shoot, Henderson is just now learning how to shoot a corner 3, Al can't pass out of double teams, Marvin is Marvin Williams. That leaves Kemba, who isn't a jump shooter, running around trying to make something happen late in the shot clock.

The problem I have always had with the anti-Kemba crowd is that they put all the blame on Kemba without acknowledging the rest of the roster. He was a starter on an up and coming playoff team that exceeded expectations. So what happened? One of his best floor spacers, CDR, isn't re-signed and the secondary ball handler that helped bring it all together in McBob wasn't re-signed either. They were replaced with Lance Stephenson and Marvin Williams.

To me, that looks more like the team failing Kemba than Kemba failing the team.

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I sensed this not long after the season ended...   He loved LeBron while he was in Cleveland.   It wasn't because of a rumor or anything, it was actually because he was posting pictures of his old house (that is no longer his)  in Cleveland and I was thinking, "why are you in Cleveland?" 

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Maybe, but because of the timing of the injury, we will never know. 

What both Mo and Kemba showed was that in order to be successful they had to put the team on their back and outside of a freak of nature like LeBron no other player can shoulder that much responsibility for an extended period of time.

I'll admit, Kemba is frustrating, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't love the prospect of trading up using kemba for a Russell or Mudiay, but a change in point guard wouldn't fix any current problems.

With Al Jefferson at 50%, the team has literally no go-to scoring option. MKG can't shoot, Henderson is just now learning how to shoot a corner 3, Al can't pass out of double teams, Marvin is Marvin Williams. That leaves Kemba, who isn't a jump shooter, running around trying to make something happen late in the shot clock.

The problem I have always had with the anti-Kemba crowd is that they put all the blame on Kemba without acknowledging the rest of the roster. He was a starter on an up and coming playoff team that exceeded expectations. So what happened? One of his best floor spacers, CDR, isn't re-signed and the secondary ball handler that helped bring it all together in McBob wasn't re-signed either. They were replaced with Lance Stephenson and Marvin Williams.

To me, that looks more like the team failing Kemba than Kemba failing the team.

McBob was the primary ballhandler for that team.  

 

Kemba doesn't have a good supporting cast.  I'll admit that and frankly there is no denying it.  But he makes a ton of boneheaded plays and gets torched often on defense.  I just don't see him as good starting material.  And he certainly isn't worth 12 mil a year.  

 

Most importantly, I think a PG makes those around him better and progress in their game.  Kemba hasn't shown me the ability to make others around him improve at all.  I think the Hornets will never amount to more than about a 40 win team by having Kemba as the starting PG and having 12 mil a year tied up on him.  

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