Walking Dead Season 6

[Bronn]

1 hour ago, Bronn said:

http://nerdrepository.com/negan-kiss-mother-mouth/

 

I meant to add, he's probably doubled those numbers since the publication of that article... or almost doubled it, at least...

[Jimmy]

Rick's acting during his decision to cut Carl's arm off was pretty damn amazing. 

[Inimicus]

I will say that this episode reminded me of why I wished Negan would've just bashed them all...

Rick & company really are a sniveling bunch o wusses who are more comfortable begging than demanding.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

8 hours ago, cookinwithgas said:

the one where Carol saved everyone in Terminus

that was awful

[Inimicus]

10 minutes ago, El Dandy said:

I guess you would have used your kung fu moves to fug up all the saviors huh

fug off tongue ring...

[Inimicus]

8 minutes ago, El Dandy said:

Okay, edgy keyboard warrior.

You're god damned right I'm a warrior, bitch...

Now get your cheap ass back on the corner, put that tongue stud to work, and make me some money, bitch!

 

[Proudiddy]

Forgive me, this will be lengthy and full of typos thanks to my thumbs, my phone's shitty autocorrect, and me having not posted all my feelings and observations in this thread for awhile, so bear with me...  

No matter how they portrayed it, the season premiere was lackluster for me because having the whole offseason to hear rumors, analyze, and process how i would feel about certain characters being offed just ruined it for me.  Glenn may be my favorite character in the show, so I wasnt looking forward to it, even though I knew it coming due to his comic book fate.  Abraham was a really likeable character as well, but knowing it was going to be Glenn all the time from last season's finale until last night, it just left a sour taste in my mouth.  I also knew HOW they were going to kill them off, so that also took away from the moment for me.  It wasnt shocking, it wasnt unexpected.  It was overhyped and underdelivered, well, at least the character deaths.  The rest of the episode was solid, but i'm also growing tired of the "rick might lose his hand" carrot they keep dangling.  Either do it or stop teasing it.  That was part of the reason Glenn's death was so anticlimactic...  the dumpster deal just put the red letter on him, felt cheap, and took away from when it finally actually happened.

I'm very critical of how theyve done things the last season or so, but it still is my favorite show on television outside of limited run series on HBO.  I just feel theyve gotten lazy and sloppy, but we'll see what happens going forward.

All that being said, and all that they messed up, these are the things that stood out...  Having not read the comics, Negan is a cold blooded mf.  I tried to look at him objectively as I knew a lot of comic fans love his character, so i wanted to view him as a complex individual...  the thought that kept running through my head has been, if we followed each of these "bad guys", such as governor and negan, like we did rick from the start of this outbreak, then would we view them as we do rick?  What if we didnt follow rick?  Would each of these people consider themselves the "good guys"? Would they be a protagonist we could get behind?  Would they simply be products of their environment, doing what it takes to survive?  I think in a lot of ways, yes.  But, negan has a sadistic streak that isn't simply created by their circumstances...  the circumstances just unlocked what was already there.  I know in the comic, negan is a bit of a womanizer and takes other people's wives as property and such, and i just dont think thats a "good guy," who has been shaped by this world.  He just seems like he was a scumbag waiting for an excuse to do all the evil things he couldn't do prior to the outbreak. So, his actions last night just seemed characteristic of that.  He is cold, calculated, and a psycho.  Maybe there is some more context to him that will be revealed later that i lack as a non-comic guy, but thats how i view him right now.

And even though Glenn's death was anticlimactic, and i didnt really feel moved during it because of the buildup, those damn final dream sequences showing him holding his daughter at that table...  something flew in my eye there, right at the end lol.  Then watching talking dead afterwards and seeing Steven Yeun and Michael Cudlitz, it really hit me...  i'm not going to see them again on the show.  The rest of the night and today, i felt like i lost a friend.  So, it finally hit me afterwards...  and i hate it.

Another thing, although i like Darryl, what purpose does he serve at this point?  I am kind of salty that hes still around when so many other great characters have died because of his presence, being that he doesnt exist in the comics...  isnt tyrese still alive in the comics at this point?  Yet, he died in the show long ago because Darryl exists and somewhat took his spot.  The reason it annoys me is because at this point,  other than getting other characters killed, he is just uninteresting and is taking up space.  They alluded to certain things with him in seasons past that wouldve made him so much more interesting as a character had they explored it, but they never did.  They never revisited those questions, and thus, his character stagnated.  Now it just feels like he is underdeveloped and taking up space for no good reason.  No love interest, no kids, no real backstory...  i just dont get it.

Moving forward, a coulple of things i observed...  i was convinced the closer we got towards the showdown with negan last season that maggie would miscarry and lose the baby.  Seeing her condition last night further convinced me of that.  I also just thought that it would be too much trouble for the writers to work around another pregnancy, so they would find a way to avoid it.  After hearing lauren cohan on talking dead last night, im starting to think i was wrong and she indeed does eventually have the baby.  The other surprise i think may be in store is as i was watching last night's episode, i thought, "what if abraham and sasha actually did get it on and she was pregnant now too?"  The show does a great job of dropping subtle and not so subtle hints, and they did that repeatedly with abraham and sasha last season.  Then again, on the talking dead, scott gimple said a big storyline involving abraham pops up later in the season, and that is my best guess...

Looking forward to see what happens as we progress even with the recent sloppiness that has taken place.

[Jangler]

Without Darryl we can't have barbecued squirrel, so there's that.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Tyrese died in Herschel's place in the comics.

Here is what is known about Negan pre-apocalypse due to his unfinished run of standalone shorts:

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Here's_Negan

[Porn Shop Clerk]

10 hours ago, El Dandy said:

You're embarrassing yourself. Please tell me your detailed plan on how you'd kill Negan and the saviors while on your hands and knees with guns pointed at your head and a psychopath with a barbed wire baseball bat in front of you.

When the fug did he even insinuate that you fuging moron.

Did that tongue ring pierce your brain?

[CRA]

9 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Forgive me, this will be lengthy and full of typos thanks to my thumbs, my phone's shitty autocorrect, and me having not posted all my feelings and observations in this thread for awhile, so bear with me...  

No matter how they portrayed it, the season premiere was lackluster for me because having the whole offseason to hear rumors, analyze, and process how i would feel about certain characters being offed just ruined it for me.  Glenn may be my favorite character in the show, so I wasnt looking forward to it, even though I knew it coming due to his comic book fate.  Abraham was a really likeable character as well, but knowing it was going to be Glenn all the time from last season's finale until last night, it just left a sour taste in my mouth.  I also knew HOW they were going to kill them off, so that also took away from the moment for me.  It wasnt shocking, it wasnt unexpected.  It was overhyped and underdelivered, well, at least the character deaths.  The rest of the episode was solid, but i'm also growing tired of the "rick might lose his hand" carrot they keep dangling.  Either do it or stop teasing it.  That was part of the reason Glenn's death was so anticlimactic...  the dumpster deal just put the red letter on him, felt cheap, and took away from when it finally actually happened.

I'm very critical of how theyve done things the last season or so, but it still is my favorite show on television outside of limited run series on HBO.  I just feel theyve gotten lazy and sloppy, but we'll see what happens going forward.

All that being said, and all that they messed up, these are the things that stood out...  Having not read the comics, Negan is a cold blooded mf.  I tried to look at him objectively as I knew a lot of comic fans love his character, so i wanted to view him as a complex individual...  the thought that kept running through my head has been, if we followed each of these "bad guys", such as governor and negan, like we did rick from the start of this outbreak, then would we view them as we do rick?  What if we didnt follow rick?  Would each of these people consider themselves the "good guys"? Would they be a protagonist we could get behind?  Would they simply be products of their environment, doing what it takes to survive?  I think in a lot of ways, yes.  But, negan has a sadistic streak that isn't simply created by their circumstances...  the circumstances just unlocked what was already there.  I know in the comic, negan is a bit of a womanizer and takes other people's wives as property and such, and i just dont think thats a "good guy," who has been shaped by this world.  He just seems like he was a scumbag waiting for an excuse to do all the evil things he couldn't do prior to the outbreak. So, his actions last night just seemed characteristic of that.  He is cold, calculated, and a psycho.  Maybe there is some more context to him that will be revealed later that i lack as a non-comic guy, but thats how i view him right now.

And even though Glenn's death was anticlimactic, and i didnt really feel moved during it because of the buildup, those damn final dream sequences showing him holding his daughter at that table...  something flew in my eye there, right at the end lol.  Then watching talking dead afterwards and seeing Steven Yeun and Michael Cudlitz, it really hit me...  i'm not going to see them again on the show.  The rest of the night and today, i felt like i lost a friend.  So, it finally hit me afterwards...  and i hate it.

Another thing, although i like Darryl, what purpose does he serve at this point?  I am kind of salty that hes still around when so many other great characters have died because of his presence, being that he doesnt exist in the comics...  isnt tyrese still alive in the comics at this point?  Yet, he died in the show long ago because Darryl exists and somewhat took his spot.  The reason it annoys me is because at this point,  other than getting other characters killed, he is just uninteresting and is taking up space.  They alluded to certain things with him in seasons past that wouldve made him so much more interesting as a character had they explored it, but they never did.  They never revisited those questions, and thus, his character stagnated.  Now it just feels like he is underdeveloped and taking up space for no good reason.  No love interest, no kids, no real backstory...  i just dont get it.

Moving forward, a coulple of things i observed...  i was convinced the closer we got towards the showdown with negan last season that maggie would miscarry and lose the baby.  Seeing her condition last night further convinced me of that.  I also just thought that it would be too much trouble for the writers to work around another pregnancy, so they would find a way to avoid it.  After hearing lauren cohan on talking dead last night, im starting to think i was wrong and she indeed does eventually have the baby.  The other surprise i think may be in store is as i was watching last night's episode, i thought, "what if abraham and sasha actually did get it on and she was pregnant now too?"  The show does a great job of dropping subtle and not so subtle hints, and they did that repeatedly with abraham and sasha last season.  Then again, on the talking dead, scott gimple said a big storyline involving abraham pops up later in the season, and that is my best guess...

Looking forward to see what happens as we progress even with the recent sloppiness that has taken place.

Daryl's plot line going forward IMO will have a lot to do with the upcoming Savior battle and more importantly this Dwight/Daryl storyline they have been slow cooking.

I haven't enjoyed Daryl of late but him and Dwight should be interesting going forward. 

My personal take...

Dwight turns on the Saviors thanks to Daryl.  One of them also dies once they team up. Dwight is he first example we have that all Saviors aren't alll actually evil....just trying to survive.  I also think Dwight's Daryl hate is a pretty big act.  Dwight is actually keeping Daryl alive.  But there is only one cross bow...[\spoiler]

[CRA]

also, ,could they have been more obvious about how one day Negan will meet his maker? Won't be a big shocker there. 

[RealBitsOfPanther]

Negan will be around for multiple seasons. He plays such a big role going forward in the comics that I can't see the show runners changing that up. 

[pstall]

2 hours ago, RealBitsOfPanther said:

Negan will be around for multiple seasons. He plays such a big role going forward in the comics that I can't see the show runners changing that up. 

I think people's ADD kicks in and now that's harder to do. I mean in a comic that works but on a week to week show that may be too long of an arc.

If this season looks like Negan is Level 4 and once he is killed or whatever they go to level 5 for the next boss then I'm out.