What is a "Catch?" I No Longer Know

[CPcavedweller]

Just now, GRWatcher said:

@CPcavedweller Can you please explain the catch where the receiver was touched down in bounds at the end of the Colts game but was ruled out of bounds & stopped the clock? And the catch where the receiver was touched down before the ball was over the goal line but it was ruled a TD in the GB game. In both cases the receiver continued to slide on the grass after being touched down. 

So you're asking about obvious blown calls now? Dude clearly slid after being touched in bounds and the officials missed the call. The OBJ play is something completely different. Also, the Ginn play is different because he was also in contact with the DB the entire play and as the ref's say it, there was a fight going on for the ball throughout the play.

Apples to Oranges. Obvious missed calls versus judgment calls. Try again. 

[CPcavedweller]

3 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

That call cost me 6 fuging points

also I wanted to see New England lose. Carolina needs to be the only undefeated team

New England may have just come the closest to losing that they will be. What scares me is that this season is shaping up much like New England's undefeated regular season. The NFC East was down and the Giants snuck in with an 8-8 record, caught fire in the playoffs and defeated New England in the Superb Owl. The Giants are again looking at an 8-8 year, and New England is looking like they can be undefeated again.

We need to step it up and not allow the Giants to be that team again as I believe Eli has the weapons on offense to make a run. 

[GRWatcher]

1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

So you're asking about obvious blown calls now? Dude clearly slid after being touched in bounds and the officials missed the call. The OBJ play is something completely different. Also, the Ginn play is different because he was also in contact with the DB the entire play and as the ref's say it, there was a fight going on for the ball throughout the play.

Apples to Oranges. Obvious missed calls versus judgment calls. Try again. 

Hey! Slow down cowboy! I was asking an honest question, not attacking you at all. Geez. I wanted to know if you agreed with me that they were blown calls because the NFL didn't address either after the games. Only because you seemed to have a good handle on the idea of a "catch". But, wow.

[CPcavedweller]

28 minutes ago, GRWatcher said:

Hey! Slow down cowboy! I was asking an honest question, not attacking you at all. Geez. I wanted to know if you agreed with me that they were blown calls because the NFL didn't address either after the games. Only because you seemed to have a good handle on the idea of a "catch". But, wow.

I see. My apologies. It seemed the other posts were antagonizing. Anyway, I agree that those were blown calls. I was actually pretty upset about the sliding inbounds but even more so about the 4th and 10 play that they called a catch when it was pretty obvious the ball hit the ground, i.e. Dez Bryant or Calvin Johnson. These crews all have tendencies however and i'm sure many of the missed calls, or judgment calls can be explained by taking a look at that information. 

[Anybodyhome]

2 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

I clearly said I have no opinion of the Tate catch. I will watch this regardless of you missing that I had said that. 

 

After watching the play....I disagree that it is a catch also. I actually think that is far more egregious than the OBJ play. 

My point is, it doesn't matter what you think because the league in NY watched this play a gazillion times in slow motion and ruled one a TD and not the other. I'm simply trying to figure out the differences and understand exactly what a catch is.

[shulasmyhero]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Again I ask. If this happened at the 50 yard line, on the logo, would you rule this a fumble, or incomplete? The rule of a catch cannot be differentiated between the end zone and the rest of the field.

Sure it can.  A ball slapped from the hand of a player as he crosses the goal line is not a fumble and it is everywhere else on the field.  Same should hold true for a reception.  Two hands on ball, control and two feet in bounds should be a touchdown at that point, play over.

Don't really care about the letter of the rule, as someone else stated, it's a flawed rule.

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

I gotta be honest, as much as I despise Dez Bryant and the Cowboys, I do think his controversial "no-catch" last season was a TD.

Just a couple weeks ago, Golden Tate made a catch that was initially ruled a touchback and awarded to the Bears. Ball in hands, 2 feet in end zone and ball comes out. Ruling changed to TD.

Yesterday, Beckham, Jr made a catch in the end zone, ball in hands, 2 feet down ball comes loose and is initially ruled a TD, then overturned.

I have no clue what to think anymore when I see something like this. I have no idea what possession is, what good having 2 feet down is, and whatever the fug the refs are looking at. 

The NFL allow the NY Giant curse to the Patriots continue?  Please deflategate loses its thunder if New England has a loss.

Looked like a TD to me and the refs until the review in which the NFL Patriot lovers overturned it.

[Jangler]

If more than two refs are confused, it's probably a TD.