"[Matt Ryan] doesn't have many weapons" -Nfl.com

[Shotgun]

On Wednesday, December 09, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Rags said:

Methinks you don't know what a game manager is.

Dalton and Romo are good QBs. Smart, hard workers, leaders, and can win (or lose) you a game.

Tyrod Taylor, Luke McCown, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryan Hoyer, THOSE are game managers. Journeymen. Just give this team some hope and don't fug up.

Somebody say game manager?

[MadHatter]

3 hours ago, C47 said:

That's not the full story though. To act like his supporting cast hasn't gotten worse is ignoring facts. He went from having White in his prime, Julio, Tony Gonzalez, Harry Douglas and a good checkdown option in Jaquizz Rodgers out of the backfield to Julio, Freeman, White (who is now a shell of himself) and Tamme who has never been a difference maker at the TE position. Again....Cam is better than Ryan, but that's not what the discussion is about. Cam being better than Ryan doesn't make Ryan's weapons outside of Julio any less mediocre. Could Cam do more with what Ryan has? Yea...I would bet he could, but Ryan's weapons still have suffered a pretty sizable drop off. 

His weapons MAY NOT be as good as they have been in the past.  However, they are still plenty good for a good QB to win with.

Ryan is more of the problem than is WR's are.

[shaqattaq]

5 hours ago, C47 said:

I would choose the team that has Greg Olsen on it. You can't swap WR and not include the entire pass catching unit.

You're correct. Obviously Olsen is a lot better than Tamme. I was comparing the #1's, veterans, and rookie receivers mentioned in the original post. On paper, Ryan is throwing to a more talented bunch. Even when you add in tight ends, his weapons, as a whole, are as good as if not better than Cam's. My point was that it was letting Ryan off the hook way too easy to blame his piss-poor performance on a lack of weapons. Cam and Rodgers (bot elite QB's) lost their best receivers before the season began, and are both finding ways to win.

[WOW!!]

7 hours ago, C47 said:

That's not the full story though. To act like his supporting cast hasn't gotten worse is ignoring facts. He went from having White in his prime, Julio, Tony Gonzalez, Harry Douglas and a good checkdown option in Jaquizz Rodgers out of the backfield to Julio, Freeman, White (who is now a shell of himself) and Tamme who has never been a difference maker at the TE position. Again....Cam is better than Ryan, but that's not what the discussion is about. Cam being better than Ryan doesn't make Ryan's weapons outside of Julio any less mediocre. Could Cam do more with what Ryan has? Yea...I would bet he could, but Ryan's weapons still have suffered a pretty sizable drop off. 

If we were comparing to what he had in the past you would be right.. But the point we are disagreeing with the article about is.. His weapons aren't bottom of the league bad... a better QB could do good work with the weapons he has... He is to blame for his failings not his weapons or the system...