Voth talks about Rivera and Newton

[rayzor]

12 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Voth was ripping Cam a new one for the way he acted in that press conference when it happened. He's just as entitled as every other PoS in the media. If I was a player I'd eat the fines and say fug them. Wouldn't even pull a Lynch and say "just here not to get fined" since that's a story itself. As a fan I love hearing my favorite players talk, especially guys like Josh, Smitty when he was here, Hardy when he was here, etc. But when looking at it from the player's point of view I think it's ridiculous.

that's what was so disappointing. voth went for the quick, easy, and wrong explanation and the only reason he did that was because he was one of them...the media guys who he walked out on. "how DARE he?" i just thought he had risen above that, esp. after spending so much time around the team.

the more i look at it, jeremy and maybe jonathan joseph are about the only people who are worth paying attention to. both know the team and the players and are willing to look at the bigger context. voth, imo, showed his true colors. it's going to take some doing for me to consider him legit after that.

[goodoleboy]

38 minutes ago, d-dave said:

If the media wants players to play nice with the, you need to let them take a shower and collect their thoughts immediately after a game.

Just saying...

That was Cams choice. I think he just wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. He could have  gone to the locker room, broken some stuff, cried, showered and dressed first before going out there. 

[rayzor]

16 minutes ago, Nomad82 said:

When it comes to black athletes, it's magnified.

Black people are still considered property to SOME white folks.. That's just how it is.

it's not just black people who are considered property. it's anyone on the big stage. just some people are better at being puppets than others. i mean you look at the way the general public via paparazzi views celebrities or anyone else at the top. the media thinks that the fact that a person is in the limelight that every part of their life is up for the rest of the world to see. when you get on that big stage you lose the right to privacy and everyone else is entitled to every second of your life. not only that, you are expected to fit some mold that the public has defined (and that mold is constantly evolving) and if you dare step outside of that mold the whole world is waiting to crucify you.

the reason that some people are more able to be the puppet that the general public expect is that they are from the basic same demographic group that has been setting the standards. but that doesn't mean that they all (black/white/latino/asian/whatever) aren't all considered property of the people looking up at them on the hill surrounding them from the valley below.

btw, i think we're all guilty of this to one degree or another.

[t96]

13 minutes ago, rayzor said:

that's what was so disappointing. voth went for the quick, easy, and wrong explanation and the only reason he did that was because he was one of them...the media guys who he walked out on. "how DARE he?" i just thought he had risen above that, esp. after spending so much time around the team.

the more i look at it, jeremy and maybe jonathan joseph are about the only people who are worth paying attention to. both know the team and the players and are willing to look at the bigger context. voth, imo, showed his true colors. it's going to take some doing for me to consider him legit after that.

Jeremy is the only one to me. He's more of a fan who has some insider info than a media member (this is a compliment, your coverage Jeremy is better than any of the "media members" any ways).

[Nomad82]

11 minutes ago, rayzor said:

it's not just black people who are considered property. it's anyone on the big stage. just some people are better at being puppets than others. i mean you look at the way the general public via paparazzi views celebrities or anyone else at the top. the media thinks that the fact that a person is in the limelight that every part of their life is up for the rest of the world to see. when you get on that big stage you lose the right to privacy and everyone else is entitled to every second of your life. not only that, you are expected to fit some mold that the public has defined (and that mold is constantly evolving) and if you dare step outside of that mold the whole world is waiting to crucify you.

the reason that some people are more able to be the puppet that the general public expect is that they are from the basic same demographic group that has been setting the standards. but that doesn't mean that they all (black/white/latino/asian/whatever) aren't all considered property of the people looking up at them on the hill surrounding them from the valley below.

btw, i think we're all guilty of this to one degree or another.

Fair enough.

[truthjuice]

47 minutes ago, Nomad82 said:

When it comes to black athletes, it's magnified.

Black people are still considered property to SOME white folks.. That's just how it is.

And then it was written!!! 

Agreed!! 

[CosmoGirl]

3 hours ago, Cookie Lyon said:

Agreed.

Just look at how the media is being sympathetic towards that alcoholic woman beater Johnny Manziel.

They feel sorry for Manziel and want him to get help, but if a black player did what he did, there wouldn't be any sympathy whatsoever.

Look at Hardy vs Manziel...

 

[Cookie Lyon]

7 minutes ago, CosmoGirl said:

Look at Hardy vs Manziel...

 

None of those people sympathized with Hardy and they shouldn't have.