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We Threw Hardy Under the Bus, but We Just Drafted A Guy With the Same Red Flag

Proudiddy

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Who was this directed towards?  Because its part of the reason I was bringing it up.  I never believed Hardy was guilty and there wasn't enough proof that he should have been convicted, but I believe he was profiled and is own stupidity in the past caught up with him.

But, half the people high fiving everything that our FO does wrote Hardy off, called him an idiot, celebrated his demise and departure, but are now applauding and excusing a new player accused of the same thing with video evidence accompanying his case.

That was just me talking out loud so to speak.

I think Hardy just tried to remove someone from his house that was drugged up and belligerent....he's so strong that no poo he'll leave bruises on a female....a lot of those pics from Holder looked like my wife after we wrestle around or after she literally bumps her leg into the wall or bed...my wife bruises so easily her wrists look pretty bad sometimes but she likes to rough house so...

But yea the Panthers got forced into doing poo because of Ray Rice.

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12 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Come off of it already. You were wrong. He was defending his girlfriend. Get over it. 

I'm stunned listening to DG. Obviously he hasn't learned poo from 2014. He shouldn't even be in this position defending the kid and his decision. 2014 was enough to say no that's ok, look else where. And then DG moved up to get him like he was a must have wtf. No 4th rounder (the round Norman and Bene was drafted in) I want what DG be smoking on

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11 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Meesa have a feeling Linville didn't bother to listen to the audio. 

Some people just like having something to complain about. 

Listened and sure hope the Panthers are making the right call and honestly, based on the history they probably are.

But again, one thing we know for sure is that Worley pushed a woman down on video and he and his legal team decided they didn't have a good enough defense to have the odds in their favor in court.

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12 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

And what's the difference between laying your hands on a woman to defend your girlfriend and laying your hands on a woman to defend/protect yourself?  What makes one better than the other? 

Damn, you're really reaching on this. 

Pushing a woman away from your girlfriend who is being ATTACKED =/= Throwing your girlfriend on a bed of guns, into a tub, and choking her out. 

 

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And to be clear this wasn't about bringing Hardy back per se, it's illustrating the huddle groupthink at work.  Hardy was written off as a woman beater (bka a career killer) and an idiot (which he may be).  But, he was a damn good player.  He went downhill in Dallas and many rejoiced because they saw it as vindication for letting him go.

Now, we draft a guy under basically the same circumstances that Hardy went through, and those same people sticking up for poor Nicole Holder are now fine with the new addition and it's no big deal because he defended his girlfriend.  Understood.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Listened and sure hope the Panthers are making the right call and honestly, based on the history they probably are.

But again, one thing we know for sure is that Worley pushed a woman down on video and he and his legal team decided they didn't have a good enough defense to have the odds in their favor in court.

I'm gonna guess the charges were dropped for a reason. 

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32 minutes ago, SportsCrazie4172 said:

The Interview killed Hardy's chances of coming back to the Panthers..

All he had to do was doing some volunteer work with a DV charity and get some counseling this offseason..but that interview just put a 10 foot pole between him and any team..

 

What do Seth Rogen and James Franco have to do with this?

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17 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Damn, you're really reaching on this. 

Pushing a woman away from your girlfriend who is being ATTACKED =/= Throwing your girlfriend on a bed of guns, into a tub, and choking her out. 

 

None of that was proven with Hardy.  And Hardy was at his own residence, of which he already tried to avoid having Holder come to.  He called to have her removed and the tables were turned on him.

Worley's situation took place at a nightclub, where nothing bad ever happens.  You're telling me there was no way Worley could've handled this but to grab the woman by the neck and push her to the ground?  The situations are a lot more similar than you're acknowledging.

These once solid, concrete morals and values so many here were standing on suddenly have become a lot more fluid.

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I've seen so much revisionist history today. We "threw Hardy under the bus" by paying him 15 million to sit at home all the while the front office stood up for him and said they believed he was innocent.

Then we "got rid of Norman" even though he refused to sign his tender and demanded to be traded.

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2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

I've seen so much revisionist history today. We "threw Hardy under the bus" by paying him 15 million to sit at home all the while the front office stood up for him and said they believed he was innocent.

Then we "got rid of Norman" even though he refused to sign his tender and demanded to be traded.

So, you're cool with Worley's past charges?

Hardy was thrown under the bus because he didn't want to sit home and collect a check.  He was convicted off of hearsay and questionable photos of injuries, and instead of TRULY demonstrating our belief in his innocence and allowing him to continue to play, we sat him, paid him for nothing, then let him walk.

That's not heroic, it's lazy.

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