Pretty darned good analysis of Minny game plays of interest

[tiger7_88]

At the site-that-shall-not-be-named.  Commentary/analysis and links to gifs of specific plays.

 

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So what does it all mean?

It's pretty easy to look at this and assume I hate KB, but there are several things to point out. I did not think the play calling helped out KB or the offense. I've seen some chatter that the Panthers need to move away from their Air Coryell style this week, and I think that is far too drastic. The offense doesn't need an overhaul, but I want to see a few more adjustments.

During this game, there were plenty of times where a receiver would be breaking wide open JUST as the defense got to Cam. Against less fearsome defensive fronts, those plays would be there. You can bet money on this offense bouncing back against a Falcons team that only has 8 sacks in the last 2 years combined (an exaggeration, but only slightly). However, facing the Vikings, I wanted to see the Panthers attack the middle of the field, and have more options in the short game.

This play is an example of what we saw from the offense after the 1st quarter.Verticals on this play, and many double routes on others. The Vikings, after the game, said they expected these types of routes. To defend, they simply backed their corners 7-10 yards from the LoS, which is typically where double moves are made. Having this type of cushion allowed them to stay in step on a double move, or be in position to make a play on a shorter route. The Panthers needed to get those CBs off their spot by calling more slants, screens, or quick outs.

Remember this type of route? Kelvin Benjamin did not run a single slant by my count against the Vikings.

Another thing I would love to see more of in the future is the back shoulder throw. Often times, we would see Funchess or KB streaking downfield with a defender step in step in single coverage. However, both of these WRs are excellent at the point of catch, so why not challenge the DB? It's not like the concept is new to these guys, as Cam and Funch connected on a strong pitch and catch just last game. Players like Jordy Nelson are never covered when Aaron Rodgers is capable of consistently making those back shoulder throws that are impossible to defend.

 

 

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[The Lobo]

4 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

At the site-that-shall-not-be-named.  Commentary/analysis and links to gifs of specific plays.

 

 

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This may be dumb, but why wouldn't we check out of the long passes at the LOS if we see dbs giving a 7 yard cushion? Are we back to not letting cam audible?

[UnluckyCharms]

2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

This may be dumb, but why wouldn't we check out of the long passes at the LOS if we see dbs giving a 7 yard cushion? Are we back to not letting cam audible?

Tough to audible when the call gets to Cam with 8 seconds left and everyone is set with 4 seconds left. Gotta get the plays in faster

[The Lobo]

10 minutes ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Tough to audible when the call gets to Cam with 8 seconds left and everyone is set with 4 seconds left. Gotta get the plays in faster

I didn't want to blame it all on play calling, but sheesh, it doesn't look good.

[Growl]

http://www.derp/2016/9/28/13087946/plays-of-interest-week-3-vikings-edition-or-how-kb-had-himself-a-bad

 

lol at that filter

[the butch]

You could see it in person.  He was taken out of the game early by a combination of poor play calling and half-way decent CB play.  A lot of the "frustration" the players spoke of can be eliminated by a little extra effort.  It's important to keep in mind how young KB is.  His rookie year showed great promise--"ascending talent," as his draft profile stated.  But then he missed an entire year of football.  It's going to take a lot more work to build up his focus habits and overall consistency.

[Adb6368]

I hate that there are 7 days between games so we have ample opportunity to relieve the catastrophe. So much had to go wrong for us to lose that game. From coaching to holding the ball too long to turnovers. This is one of those weeks I wish we played Thursday night so we could get the bad taste out of our mouth. It's one thing to lose, it's another to feel like you beat yourself. 

[Jangler]

55 minutes ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Tough to audible when the call gets to Cam with 8 seconds left and everyone is set with 4 seconds left. Gotta get the plays in faster

I'm a Libra, and sometimes decisions are hard to come by...but damn Shula! pick something, anything, just protect Cam in the process.

asshole

[KSpan]

34 minutes ago, Dick the Butcher said:

You could see it in person.  He was taken out of the game early by a combination of poor play calling and half-way decent CB play.  A lot of the "frustration" the players spoke of can be eliminated by a little extra effort.  It's important to keep in mind how young KB is.  His rookie year showed great promise--"ascending talent," as his draft profile stated.  But then he missed an entire year of football.  It's going to take a lot more work to build up his focus habits and overall consistency.

Kelvin is 25 - "young" is perhaps the wrong word to use.

[the butch]

Just now, KSpan said:

Kelvin is 25 - "young" is perhaps the wrong word to use.

experience wise.  he's "young" on the learning curve.  i could have been clearer there.

[greghardy'sAK-47]

Shula is an in-game dumb ass.  Consistently gets undressed in 2nd half by opposing teams.  He's good at coming out and dictating a scripted game plan, but once that starts to go south his ability to adapt is doo-doo.  His idea of adapting seems to be run it into the back of the pile 2x, deep routes on 3rd with savages reigning hell on Cam, and then kick it.  Re-tard-ed!

 

[the butch]

7 minutes ago, greghardy'sAK-47 said:

Shula is an in-game dumb ass.  Consistently gets undressed in 2nd half by opposing teams.  He's good at coming out and dictating a scripted game plan, but once that starts to go south his ability to adapt is doo-doo.  His idea of adapting seems to be run it into the back of the pile 2x, deep routes on 3rd with savages reigning hell on Cam, and then kick it.  Re-tard-ed!

 

I agree.  But I place the blame higher up, too.  All the offensive and defensive coaches game plan with Rivera, and all measures outside the original game plan must be approved.  Our system of play calling is seriously fuged.  From the stubbornness to change-up the play calls to Cam making adjustments up until the play clock hits 1.  SOMETHING has to be done, because our poo's fuged up.  IDK if shortening the tether on Shula's headset will work, but it's a start.

[greghardy'sAK-47]

12 minutes ago, Dick the Butcher said:

I agree.  But I place the blame higher up, too.  All the offensive and defensive coaches game plan with Rivera, and all measures outside the original game plan must be approved.  Our system of play calling is seriously fuged.  From the stubbornness to change-up the play calls to Cam making adjustments up until the play clock hits 1.  SOMETHING has to be done, because our poo's fuged up.  IDK if shortening the tether on Shula's headset will work, but it's a start.

I gotta say, they seem to be real good at hanging on for dear life down the stretch.

For real though, they even suck at calling games with big leads.  Some guy here was trying to convince me these flat 2nd half should all be laid on the players and them not being "focused".  I'm like for fugs sake.  They are monsters possessed coming out in games.  What exactly changes from a focus standpoint sitting in the locker-room at halftime for a few minutes of a 10-8 game?  I might follow that line of thought if bad 2nd halves were an uncommon occurrence.  When they consistently happen there is a problem with the strategy and tactics these coaches are implementing in game.  If anything the players seem more focused.  I don't really remember as many bad penalties coming in the 2nd half, but that could just be me.   

[the butch]

Nah it's obvious to anyone with a brain that we have the players to win.  With the salary cap and the risk-averse nature of owners, GMs will never have the financial resources they need to collect tons of players.  It's on the coaches to make up the deficit.