"But, Jersh gave up 178 yerds in Atlanter last seezun"

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[TylerDurden]

40 minutes ago, jfo89 said:

 

If Julio has 6 seconds to run down field and Matt Ryan knows it and can load up and let it go with a clean pocket,  then yea. Pass rush.

If you go back and watch our defense over the last two seasons, or hopefully you have memories of it, still vivid in your mind...  Think of how many times coverage caused the sack.  Our pass rush has been an issue, ironically, since Greg Hardy was deactivated, and yet, we still managed sacks and turnovers.  

Josh wasn't solely responsible for that, but he locked down an entire side of the field.  That allowed McDermott to scheme and help shore up other areas of weakness.  If you have a side of the field taken care of, the game is a lot easier - you can double other areas, you can shade to the other side, you can send more blitzers.  We can't do any of that now.  Josh could stay with his man for long enough to allow rushers to break free and eventually chase down the QB (guys like Peanut did as well).  So, they go hand in hand.

A lot of people ate up that whole "he's a system player.  Our front seven made him." talk...  And it was just that, TALK.  Does he look like a different player in Washington?

[TylerDurden]

38 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

This is funny. 

You know the coverage and the rush complement each other, RR.  I'm tired of people dismissing the issues that are affecting the pass rush, and a great deal of it is due to our issues on the back end.

[RoaringRiot]

Just now, Proudiddy said:

You know the coverage and the rush complement each other, RR.  I'm tired of people dismissing the issues that are affecting the pass rush, and a great deal of it is due to our issues on the back end.

Matt Ryan had enough time to read a book, eat a sandwich, or take a nap if he wanted to. We know the guy folds under pressure (ex: our pick 6). He was launching 50 yard bombs to a freak of nature WR. No one is stopping that. Hell, Luke couldn't stop it the year before and the coverage was there. Both are issues - not just one - but it starts up front.

[Pox 08]

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[jfo89]

8 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

If you go back and watch our defense over the last two seasons, or hopefully you have memories of it, still vivid in your mind...  Think of how many times coverage caused the sack.  Our pass rush has been an issue, ironically, since Greg Hardy was deactivated, and yet, we still managed sacks and turnovers.  

Josh wasn't solely responsible for that, but he locked down an entire side of the field.  That allowed McDermott to scheme and help shore up other areas of weakness.  If you have a side of the field taken care of, the game is a lot easier - you can double other areas, you can shade to the other side, you can send more blitzers.  We can't do any of that now.  Josh could stay with his man for long enough to allow rushers to break free and eventually chase down the QB (guys like Peanut did as well).  So, they go hand in hand.

A lot of people ate up that whole "he's a system player.  Our front seven made him." talk...  And it was just that, TALK.  Does he look like a different player in Washington?

 

They do go hand in hand, and they're both concerns. The pass rush is abysmal though, even when the secondary was giving the pass rush time to get there they couldn't do it. We could go in circles about this all day.

 

As far as Josh goes, I never said anything about him being a system player. He's still one of my favorite players. I do think that he will take a step back but judging from what I've seen from the panthers so far, he probably would have taken a step back here as well.