Are you comfortable with the roster?

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The GB game got out of hand late but Rodgers brought our defense to the brink there briefly. Which was the overall point. Sometimes it's just one play that can change a game completely. Think about the most recent Super Bowl when Atlanta decided to pass instead of run and just kick a field goal.

You don't care so much you quoted me twice, lol.

If you want to be a condescending prick, expect the same in response. Me and The Hudder were disagreeing just a bit ago, but you didn't see me slapping him around for it did you? Keep it pushing.

Rodgers barely did anything. He threw a "hail laser" to James Jones on a 4th and 14 that tipped off Normans fingertips. James Starks took a couple screen passes 30 yds. And Cam had to throw an INT(by a player that was obviously out of bounds) inside our own 20 just for them to have a chance to tie. But the point is you judge a team by their entire season. Not by some cherry-picked games that you want to claim as luck. Did we suck this year, or was it just bad luck we lost all those close games. And ATL lost the Super Bowl because of poor decisions. Not luck. 

  I don't care about your opinions. It's about you distorting facts to fit your agenda.

If you can't handle someone calling your facts out, don't post them. Or get better facts. 

[Fox007]

We're much better than even our SB run on paper...that's real talk KB is healthy and Bradberry is barely and I mean barely less than Norman but with our SS addition we're going to be even better at S or at least the same as then.

This draft will also help put our offense back up to par if it goes the way I think it will.

That said we need WR help and OL/RB depth. 

Our slot isn't going to be abused endlessly with Captain back and the backend S play is going to be back to trustworthy if not Thieves Inc again. Add Peppers who even if he only gets 8 sacks again will be a fantastic addition to an already well around pass rush that has the sacks spread out...we can finally bring heat from anywhere including from S or Corner as Captain was good at that too lest we forget.

IF this team plays up to it's potential we can go 14-2....even last year was 12-4 if we win our 3 point games.....and think of last years shitty play all around.

[Fox007]

14 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

So you expect Cam to carry a WR group consisting of scrubs like Charles Johnson, Russell Shepard, Devin Funchess as his 2, 3 and 4? 

Doesn't matter who it is great QB play will elevate those type of WRs. Elite QBs could do it with that group especially given Olsen.

Cam did it too once he just has to do it consistently and it helps to have a LT hopefully finally. If Cam does him like he did with Ginn as his #1 then that same level of play with KB and other probably draft picks or future signings then shiiittt.

[Shocker]

4 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

We're much better than even our SB run on paper...that's real talk KB is healthy and Bradberry is barely and I mean barely less than Norman but with our SS addition we're going to be even better at S or at least the same as then.

This draft will also help put our offense back up to par if it goes the way I think it will.

That said we need WR help and OL/RB depth. 

Our slot isn't going to be abused endlessly with Captain back and the backend S play is going to be back to trustworthy if not Thieves Inc again. Add Peppers who even if he only gets 8 sacks again will be a fantastic addition to an already well around pass rush that has the sacks spread out...we can finally bring heat from anywhere including from S or Corner as Captain was good at that too lest we forget.

IF this team plays up to it's potential we can go 14-2....even last year was 12-4 if we win our 3 point games.....and think of last years shitty play all around.

Wow, I pretty much agree all around man.  I hear ya.

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Doesn't matter who it is great QB play will elevate those type of WRs. Elite QBs could do it with that group especially given Olsen.

Cam did it too once he just has to do it consistently and it helps to have a LT hopefully finally. If Cam does him like he did with Ginn as his #1 then that same level of play with KB and other probably draft picks or future signings then shiiittt.

Right but it doesn't have to be that hard. We had the cap space and there were multiple WR's available and instead we go after bums like Johnson, Shepard and over pay for someone like Munnerlyn.

Address the need properly, stop hoping and just let Cam do work!

[Marguide]

In any evaluation of WR over the last couple of years, it bears considering that coaching may have been a problem.

Most seemed to think RP was a great WR coach. I never understood that. He was a great player and a really likable guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was a great coach.

So maybe some new coaching will bring a different result.

[MBronson]

Very well done with the spreadsheet. It made looking over the entire roster much easier. The only position I would address is the WR... not that we're bad or slow at the position; but in each of our succesful seasons, we pack in as much veteran leadership as possible. I would love to see a Victor Cruz or Anquan Boldin come here. May have a chance for a career revival here

[TheRed]

8 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Rodgers barely did anything. He threw a "hail laser" to James Jones on a 4th and 14 that tipped off Normans fingertips. James Starks took a couple screen passes 30 yds. And Cam had to throw an INT(by a player that was obviously out of bounds) inside our own 20 just for them to have a chance to tie. But the point is you judge a team by their entire season. Not by some cherry-picked games that you want to claim as luck. Did we suck this year, or was it just bad luck we lost all those close games. And ATL lost the Super Bowl because of poor decisions. Not luck. 

  I don't care about your opinions. It's about you distorting facts to fit your agenda.

If you can't handle someone calling your facts out, don't post them. Or get better facts. 

Throwing an interception in the red zone late in the game on the road is a hell of a momentum swing. You can't discount that.

Anyway, bad decisions alone didn't result in Atlanta belting out the worst choke job in NFL history. They got cocky, took a sack instead of the points, and everything spiraled from there. With some miraculous throws/catches by NE along the way.

Well unless you plan on doing something about it instead of yipping like a raging lap dog, you will continue to read my posts.

[Fox007]

5 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Right but it doesn't have to be that hard.

Address the need properly, stop hoping and just let Cam do work!

Yea we've done a terribly wondrous job of not stacking our offense with talent to help him in general.

 

4 minutes ago, Marguide said:

In any evaluation of WR over the last couple of years, it bears considering that coaching may have been a problem.

Most seemed to think RP was a great WR coach. I never understood that. He was a great player and a really likable guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was a great coach.

So maybe some new coaching will bring a different result.

Na the lack of separation isn't a coaching issue and neither is KB pushing people in the back on would be TDs or huge first downs as well as the drops from all of them.

If you attend the games in person we lack speed and it's really really obvious from up there much more so than the TV...it's just easier to see. You can run perfect routes and if you are slow shits the corner will be on you anyway. Also they get open and drop the damn thing on how many of those? Poor Cam could have at least 5 more passing TD's just off my head and 400 yards more to his stats.

BUT
I like the Cotchery move and IMO I think that alone will do more than the main WR coach. I think our WRs will improve but that's not a knock on RP as i'd say the same thing if he was here too. 

[Shocker]

Gettleman is the best there is...that is my confidence.  This guy is an amazing GM.  We had crazy bad injuries last year and our QB was a pinyatta for late hits and we could have easily won many more games.  My wish list is TDs or sacks from our first 3 picks an we are an amazing team.  Cam is a great when he's plugged into championship mode.  No team has a better outlook seroiusly...personally I still think I want Fornette but he will not last - no RB does.  The first 5 to 6 yrs will be fun.

[CPF4LIFE]

3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

very comfortable

 

 

 

those who don't like the WR group are looking at that group in a Superbowl hangover vacuum and are simply short sighted to the potential in that group.

And this is near sighted to me because the potential from that group wasn't a lot plus the Wide receiver coach who was supposed to put us over the hump retired and we replaced him with a unknown guy.  We also let the most consistent receiver go in FA from last year, and you had players and analysis guys calling out our group for not being very skilled/fundamentally sound all last season, the guy on  twitter pointing how we have one of the worst groups in league after evaluation with the droppedal passes. With all that I don't understand where the optimism is coming from. Seems like nothing more than blind faith they will get better because there is nothing the team has done so far for us to think other wise.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Throwing an interception in the red zone late in the game on the road is a hell of a momentum swing. You can't discount that.

Anyway, bad decisions alone didn't result in Atlanta belting out the worst choke job in NFL history. They got cocky, took a sack instead of the points, and everything spiraled from there. With some miraculous throws/catches by NE along the way.

Well unless you plan on doing something about it instead of yipping like a raging lap dog, you will continue to read my posts.

 How is a player getting an INT, while being out of bounds, an example of us being lucky? You made the statement. And so far you have found 3 games, all very questionable to be called lucky at all. So if you were right, we should have went 12-4. Great example of luck being the reason we were so good. Top notch there my man. 

  Bad decisions cost them much more than luck. And they did it twice. Up 16, 6:00 left, and you pass on 3rd and short. Sack, fumble, quick TD. NE was dead in the water at that point. Then did it again it again a couple minutes later! The only thing lucky for NE was ATL being stupid. 

  Yep. I should have known better. You're part of the white noise brigade. Anything that doesn't fit your agenda just doesn't exist to you. You do you, I'll take of me. And we'll leave it at that. It was my mistake to respond to you anyhow. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Yes, I am extremely comfortable with he current roster.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Yes, I am extremely comfortable with he current roster.

Thats because you understand bravo my friend