Some notes from my source

[Verge]

4 hours ago, steven8989 said:

Does Jaguars scare him as a team that would draft Fournette. That really looks like the only team unless someone traded ahead of us

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It's heavily implied.

[Panthero]

praying we trade back and take ross. this team has a lot of aging vets, when they hit the wall this team will need a huge rebuild. need to start that process now so the transition isnt so rocky.

wr, ot, rb, s, te, lb, c, g are all in need of attention. this draft has a lot of talent that while not transcendant can give you guys that will be 10 year vets. need to restock the cupboard.

[Chardee MacDennis]

Not opposed to trading back and picking up more guys in the 2nd/3rd. But at the same time, I want an instant game changing playmaker on either side of the ball in the 1st. Don't think CM falls enough to get him if you trade back. But maybe he could.

Would prefer Saquan Barkley out of PSU in next years draft to replace Stew. I think he's even better than CM and LF in terms of NFL fit. He's gonna beast in the league.

Trade back for Ross and then trade back into late 1st for a top defensive player who falls to help get younger on that side of the ball.

Then draft Barkley and a other top defensive player in 18.

Barkley and Ross will carry the offense.

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[Chardee MacDennis]

4. Jaguars: Jonathan Allen - DT - Alabama

The Jaguars have plenty of needs, but they should go with the best-available player — Allen. New Jags’ top man Tom Coughlin knows the value of a dominant defensive line — he has two rings on his fingers because of them.

Saw this in a mock. Makes sense if Tom is pulling the strings. Can anyone see this happening? Or is the consensus that the Jags are going with LF?

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[Chardee MacDennis]

FWIW, the same mock has Adams falling to 15, Panthers taking CM at 8, and says some guy told him CM has a guarantee from a top 10 picking team.

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[Bronn]

My best guess right now:

1 CLE - Garrett
2 SF - Thomas
3 CAR (From CHI for #8 and 2018 1st rounder) - Fournette
4 JAX - Allen
5 CLE (From TEN for #12, #52, and their 2018 1st rounder) - Trubisky
6 NYJ - Lattimore
7 LAC - Hooker
8 CHI - Adams
9 CIN - Barnett
10 BUF - Reddick
11 NO - McCaffrey
12 TEN - Humphrey
13 ARI - Mahomes
14 PHI - Harris
15 IND - Foster
16 BAL - Howard
17 WAS - McDowell
18 TEN - Davis
19 TB - Cook
20 DEN - Ramczyk
21 DET - Tim Williams
22 MIA - Lamp
23 NYG - McKinley
24 OAK - Bolles
25 HOU - Watson
26 SEA - Awuzie
27 KC - Kizer
28 DAL - Tabor
29 GB - Conley
30 PIT - Njoku
31 ATL - Robinson
32 NO - Charlton

[Worm]

36 minutes ago, Bronn said:

My best guess right now:


3 CAR (From CHI for #8 and 2018 1st rounder) - Fournette
8 CHI - Adams
 

Cue fan meltdown.

[thefuzz]

39 minutes ago, Bronn said:

My best guess right now:

1 CLE - Garrett
2 SF - Thomas
3 CAR (From CHI for #8 and 2018 1st rounder) - Fournette
4 JAX - Allen
5 CLE (From TEN for #12, #52, and their 2018 1st rounder) - Trubisky
6 NYJ - Lattimore
7 LAC - Hooker
8 CHI - Adams
9 CIN - Barnett
10 BUF - Reddick
11 NO - McCaffrey
12 TEN - Humphrey
13 ARI - Mahomes
14 PHI - Harris
15 IND - Foster
16 BAL - Howard
17 WAS - McDowell
18 TEN - Davis
19 TB - Cook
20 DEN - Ramczyk
21 DET - Tim Williams
22 MIA - Lamp
23 NYG - McKinley
24 OAK - Bolles
25 HOU - Watson
26 SEA - Awuzie
27 KC - Kizer
28 DAL - Tabor
29 GB - Conley
30 PIT - Njoku
31 ATL - Robinson
32 NO - Charlton

If we use 2 1sts on a RB that is one dimensional I'm going to....

well, honestly, I don't know what I would do.

[Bronn]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

If we use 2 1sts on a RB that is one dimensional I'm going to....

well, honestly, I don't know what I would do.

I really think I'd prefer staying at #8, but I really think Jacksonville will take Fournette at #4 if we don't move ahead of them to get him.

If he is our guy, as some reports and sources indicate, I would think that Rivera and Gettleman are on the hot seat enough to mortgage a future draft pick to make sure they get their guy. They'd rather do this and retain the picks we currently have for this year's draft.

I've always been a Fournette fan, but I don't necessarily agree with a trade up to #3 either.

My gut is really telling me that we might dangle Derek Anderson out there to either CLE, SF, or CHI as part of a trade.

 

[thefuzz]

Just now, Bronn said:

I really think I'd prefer staying at #8, but I really think Jacksonville will take Fournette at #4 if we don't move ahead of them to get him.

If he is our guy, as some reports and sources indicate, I would think that Rivera and Gettleman are on the hot seat enough to mortgage a future draft pick to make sure they get their guy. They'd rather do this and retain the picks we currently have for this year's draft.

I've always been a Fournette fan, but I don't necessarily agree with a trade up to #3 either.

My gut is really telling me that we might dangle Derek Anderson out there to either CLE, SF, or CHI as part of a trade.

 

I honestly hope that none of what you are describing comes true.

Personally, I don't think that Ron's job is in danger...and I certainly don't think that DG's is.

 

[Bronn]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I honestly hope that none of what you are describing comes true.

Personally, I don't think that Ron's job is in danger...and I certainly don't think that DG's is.

 

I'm not sold that their seats are as hot as some, but one can't deny that our previous two seasons have been pretty bipolar.

[PanthersBigD]

Hahahahahaha. We're not trading away two first rounders for one player. 

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, Bronn said:

I'm not sold that their seats are as hot as some, but one can't deny that our previous two seasons have been pretty bipolar.

If you are going to go "all in on a RB" I would prefer to stay at 8, or possibly slide a bit and select CmC....then sign Blount as our "backup" to Stew and call it a day.

Three fully capable RB's to compete.

[Bronn]

5 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

Hahahahahaha. We're not trading away two first rounders for one player. 

How else do you think we make the supposed trade up? Most of the rest of this year's early draft picks? It would take at least both seconds and our third, but probably more.

If Fournette is truly the guy we want bad enough to trade up, then a future 1st is the most logical way to do so.

Believe me, I'd love to keep pick #8 and still be able to pick third, but I don't see Chicago, or any trade up partner shy of Tennessee willing to vacate the top ten completely.