Gantt thinks you're overreacting

[Kurb]

Proudiddy just made a good point.

I might just tear up here.....

[Fireball77]

he had nothing to do with either of these picks.

Fisher was outspoken in his desire to draft Matt Leinart since they had Norm Chow in Tennessee at the time.

Haynesworth was a financial decision.

I am not disagreeing...but if one blames Fox for those things one should blame Fisher for these, no? Neither one is the GM of their team, or the owner. Unless one thinks that Fisher has less personnel power than Fox, which is a possibility. I just don't know.

[Kurb]

http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=52121

[frash.exe]

we have a turnover happy offense and a defense that tackles like sissy little school children and Darin expects us to do cartwheels and praise the good name of the John Fox

[Fireball77]

I'm just tired of his emotionless demeanor all the time. Does he even care anymore? I'm referring to post-game issues, he should be a little more expressive than the same usual BS we get every year.

Is this from here or the thread Kurb posted? You make the call.

[frash.exe]

If I have a pet peeve as a journalist, it's when conventional wisdoms are propped up by something other than facts.

So after some cursory research, here's a look at what we're talking about:

Jeff Fisher: Career regular season record 128-105 (.549)

John Fox: Career regular season record 63-52 (.548)

Jeff Fisher: One AFC Championship (lost Super Bowl)

biggest red herring

"hmmm let me completely ignore the turnovers and the horrid defense that is probably ranked in the bottom 5 in PA and total yards without looking and front his cool overall record!!!!!!!!!"

what a hogwash spewing tank of excrement

[natty]

Raging Bull, take a ritalin and you might be able to make a point.

That Fisher thread is creepy.

[Fiz]

also, someone needs to point out that the titans were in the worst cap hell of any team in NFL history for about three years there. bud what's his name basically sold out for a two year run and they couldn't get past the ravens.

what fisher was able to do righting that ship is incredible.

[Fireball77]

I am not saying this team doesn't have issues (as do the Titans) but W-L is how HCs are judged by people on here, no?

Though I agree with Kurb that Proudiddy made a good point.

[scpanther22]

it's amazing how quickly the perception of gantt on this board has changed.

I have no problem with some of the reporting..its just he comes off as a asshole IMO..when he is on wfnz..he talks down to the fans..like we are stupid.

[frash.exe]

Raging Bull, take a ritalin and you might be able to make a point.

That Fisher thread is creepy.

oh no, you got me with that medication joke, haha, elbow my ribs. keep it up with the quick wit and i'll have to write a tender sentiment.

[KillerKat]

biggest red herring

"hmmm let me completely ignore the turnovers and the horrid defense that is probably ranked in the bottom 5 in PA and total yards without looking and front his cool overall record!!!!!!!!!"

what a hogwash spewing tank of excrement

Gantt is a sh*t journalist. What other "facts" does he need to conclude our team and coach sucks?

On offense, we're 26th in overall yards and 29th in overall points

On defense, we're 21st in overall yards given up and 30th in overall points given up

Well Gantt is that enough to over turn your opinion on Panthers fans not recognizing the "facts" according to you?

[Fiz]

I have no problem with some of the reporting..its just he comes off as a asshole IMO..when he is on wfnz..he talks down to the fans..like we are stupid.

well if this board is any indication panthers fans are barely literate, let alone intelligent

[natty]

The way I look at it we have had 4 major problems this year.

Jake - I still very unsure about him but I realize it's not at all far fetched to think he can pull it together(but keep Fox next year should be contingent on him making serious moves for a new QB)

Defense - we all knew the defense was likely to start off rough. injuries have just compounded the problem. I think we'll end the season with a very different opinion of the D

Peppers - I have zero problems with a player get paid out the ass even if he doesn't deserve it. I have a problem with him completely handcuffing the team in the off season and then laying a egg like he did in dallas

special teams - Fox can only stay if Crossman is GONE

3 of those 4 can be fixed and I still think Fox can fix them. He fuged up, but everyone does at some point. Proudiddy does make an excellent point though. I think Fox can change without getting fired though. Just a feeling.