After watching week 4 football

[bigdog10]

I've come to the realization that I can fix our offense.

Seeing Denver, Dallas, New England, Baltimore, Indy, and Seattle using their running backs out of the backfield for more than just to block disgusted me.

Deangelo, is arguably one of the best running backs in space, yet we fail to ever get the ball to him out of the backfield. I'm not so much talking about screens, although i'd love to see them, but Deangelo or Stewart should be Jakes second read.

I know it has been talked about numerous times, but it was never more evident that today, after seeing many 2nd and sixes converted by using the back out of the backfield.

That is all.

[God]

Dont you just love John Fox?

[Claws]

Using our running backs for more than fielding all 11 players?

Interesting concept God.....

[Upper Deck West End Zone]

We have been doing that.

[beastson]

We have been doing that.

Yea but Jake doesn't throw to them

[tarheelfan23]

all we have to do is get another qb that will use there weapons

[goodlay]

Huh? Nahh, just force the ball to Steve Smith, that has never failed us!

[panthers55]

We have been doing that.

You are correct. Of the 61 passes that Jake has completed- 16 have been completed to the running backs (9 to Williams and 7 to Stewart). That is more than he has thrown to the tight ends. In fact Williams is the third leading receiver and Stewart is the fourth.

As for always thrwing it to Smith- Moose has one less completion than Smith and overall Smith only accounted for 15 of the 61 receptions or 25%. It is true that we have thrown to Smith roughly 30% of the time and his completion percentage is below 50%. Still the idea we throw all the time to Smith and never throw to the running backs out of the backfield are both myths.

[Fireball77]

Good stuff P55. Didn't know that.

[Zcustom]

stats are for losers

- John Fox

[panthers55]

stats are for losers

Stats help keep accuracy in whining and bitching.

Whiners and bitchers are losers.

[Zcustom]

stats are for losers

- John Fox

Stats help keep accuracy in whining and bitching.

Whiners and bitchers are losers.

edited for clarity

[firstdayfan]

As for always thrwing it to Smith- Moose has one less completion than Smith and overall Smith only accounted for 15 of the 61 receptions or 25%. It is true that we have thrown to Smith roughly 30% of the time and his completion percentage is below 50%.QUOTE]

I get what you are saying and I do agree but how many targets has Smith had opposed to other receivers over the first three games? Thats what really matters. I can count at least 5 INT's that have been thrown trying to force the ball to Smitty. I agree with you that we do throw to the running backs (I haven't seen a screen pass since the Philly game) but I also agree with the guys who think Jake should spread the ball around a little more.

For example, at Dallas, Rosario was making plays and on that drive that Jake threw the pick he went Smith, then Smith. He has to understand that Smith is being double and triple covered. If he could spread it around then the defense would be forced to adjust or either let the other guys kill them.

[panthers55]

edited for clarity

THe context for that statement hardly applies on this board. His context was that winning the game is all that matters and the losing team is the one that pulls out stats and numbers to justify that even though they lost for example they had more passing yards or whatever.

That has nothing to do with how many catches we throw to the running backs versus Smitty.

Plus he ignores that the ultimate stat are points for and points against which is all that matters.