Looking at the fact's Gettleman wasn't poo.

[panther4life]

Here is all of his draft picks:

Lotuleleli- Hit

Short -Hit

Kugbila -Miss

Klein- Hit (now gone)

Barner -Miss

Benjamin- Hit (lets hope so, he showed up overweight and team has won 13 of a possible 32 games he started in)

Ealy- Miss

Turner - Hit

Boston- Miss

Bene- Miss

Gaffney Miss

Shaq - Hit ( however he's been a luxury for a 1st round pick over the last 2 years since he has not attained a full time starting role yet )

Funchess- Jury still out. Not proving worth the trade up at this point.

Daryl Williams- leaning towards miss but he was a 4th rounder (taken just outside of the 3rd round)

Mayo- Hit for slot taken

CAP- Jury still out

Butler- -Jury still out, but an uber luxury, especially since we retained Short

Bradberry- Hit, came on strong last year

Worley- jury still out, anyone crowning him as a hit at this point is blindly being a Gettleman homer

Zanchez- Miss

Sandland- Miss

How has he done is replacing departed players that he forced out.

Gross- Failed

Smith- Failed

Norman- Failed. No Bradberry is not on Norman's level, granted I hope he gets there.

How many players has he added to the team via free agency that have participated in his 2 winning season's?

Including draft picks and free agents these are the only players brought in by Gettleman who participated in his 2 winning seasons.

Star - Anybody think any GM on the planet wouldn't have taken him at 13? The only player the Huddle unanimously desired throughout the whole draft process.

Short - Possibly Gettleman's best move yet.

A.J Klein- if you want to count him for technical purposes. BTW he's a Saint now.

Ginn- He's gone again lol.

So 3 draft picks and a 1 band aide free agent. 

What an awesome formula for long term sustained success.

In 2015 he did a nice job adding Tillman, Coleman, Oher, and Allen. Well only Coleman remains and he played out of position last season which reduced his effectiveness.

This offseason his solution to finally fixing the LT issue he hasn't been able to address other than 1 decent year out of Oher, was to pay big bucks for Matt Kalil, one of the biggest bust in recent history. BTW Kalil, joins Coleman as only 2nd starting caliber player to sign a long term deal that was acquired by Gettleman. Sure he got back to his short term fixes with the additions of Peppers, Munnerlyn and Adams( why do those first 2 sound so familiar lol? Let's not forget to thank CJ AND TD for the excellent recruiting job's).

So if anything he has actually ridden the coat tails of Hurney. 

Inherited a 2 time coach of the year (Rivera). Inherited a front office who obtained promotions this offseason. Speaking of front office inheritance, Rob Rodgers the salary cap guru who orchestrated a lot of the "Hurney Magic" and "Gettlemagic" where you restructure players, give them a new signing bonus that gets prorated long term to create immediate cap room but kicks the can down the road in terms of cap hits.

Inherited a 8 of 10 pro bowler's on the 15-1 roster, plus key cogs like Dwan Edwards, Mario Addison on the d-line, that played significant roles in both of our winning seasons as part of the d-line rotation. 

So long term additions added by Gettleman to recap are. Short, Turner,Coleman (and hopefully Star). We will see about the other younger players. However this clearly illustrates he never had a good vision for long term success ( when  I say success I mean winning consistently not saving up a bunch of cap space to break the bank on a former first round bust, yea you Matt Kalil).

This is just looking at everything from a purely business standpoint. Let's throw in the human emotion, locker room chemistry part. How do you think Ron felt when he had to get up their and try to justify Gettleman's moving on from Gross and replacing him with the worst RT in football (Byron Bell) and then somehow have to try and justify it? Ron was full of poo with this well he's left handed crap. But he had to be a company man and say something. Or how did Ron and the locker room feel when we booted Norman, let Tillman walk and moved Coleman to a different position.  Or what about the time when he lost the best Panther ever and cap space couldn't even be used as a justification. 

P.S I forgot to mention how dumb the Hardy franchise tag was. That was supposedly when we were at the peak of our cap hell, so we blew a 1 year rental on a guy who likely wouldn't have been enough to take us to the next level if he actually even played that year. As Gettleman says himself "you're never one player away". Btw Voth has confirmed numerous times the tag was not used a tool to work out a long term deal, it was always designed as 1 year rental.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[uncfan888]

Yeah, this needed another thread

[panther4life]

1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

Yeah, this needed another thread

I must admit, I was solely seeking the attention of his blind worshippers such as yourself and had a strong feeling i'd get that exact response. Humor me and point out my fallacies please. Everyone else had their turn, figured I'd take mine too.

[panther4life]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Yeah, this needed another thread

Just so you don't think i'm jumping on the kick him while he's down bandwagon, check this out from October of last year.

This is likely the same time where JR began to contemplate firing him.

 

[Saca312]

Ealy would've been clear-cut Superbowl MVP had we won the game. Even if he did disappoint last season, he's not a miss. 

Remind me what round Tre Boston was picked in. I would say he's been a servicable starter for the value he was taken in. Sure, he's inconsistent, but he has shown good flashes. 

I'd take that any day for the round he was drafted in.

Bene is not a miss. He was a very good corner trending up right up to his leg injury. For a guy who could've been a solid starter before his injury, he did enough to warrant a fifth round pick.

For Daryl William's value, he's a good hit. Better than Remmers, and did pretty well against better competition throughout last season. 

Your luxury argument makes you look pathetic. Shaq has done a lot, especially considering most of Gman's picks are bottom 20 in each round. So has Vernon Butler for a 31st round pick, even progressing at the same rate KK Short has in a shorter amount of field time.

Sanchez is still debatable. A lot like Norman his rookie year. Probably a bust, I'll give you that.

Lmao booted Tillman? The guy just had another ACL tear and was constantly injured in 2015 at his old age. I loved him when he was here, but anyone could see he was done a mile away.

And the Hardy situation? Why the heck would you not tag your best pass rusher? This was before all the crazy around him emerged. You tag him and keep him if you can.

So much wrong with this.

[panther4life]

Just now, Saca312 said:

Ealy would've been clear-cut Superbowl MVP had we won the game. Even if he did disappoint last season, he's not a miss. 

Remind me what round Tre Boston was picked in. I would say he's been a servicable starter for the value he was taken in. Sure, he's inconsistent, but he has shown good flashes. 

I'd take that any day for the round he was drafted in.

Bene is not a miss. He was a very good corner trending up right up to his leg injury. For a guy who could've been a solid starter before his injury, he did enough to warrant a fifth round pick.

For Daryl William's value, he's a good hit. Better than Remmers, and did pretty well against better competition throughout last season. 

Your luxury argument makes you look pathetic. Shaq has done a lot, especially considering most of Gman's picks are bottom 20 in each round.

Sanchez is still debatable. A lot like Norman his rookie year.

So much wrong with this.

Your 10k post on a forum in 2 months makes you look pathetic if you want to throw stones in a glass house fella. 

If Ealy wasn't a miss then why did Gettleman give him away this offseason? Or if Boston was such a hit, then why did Gettleman cut him? Better than Remmers on William's, haha thats setting the bar high.

[Saca312]

Lmao. If I say that Worley's good, I'm a Gettleman nuthugger? What kind of argument is that?

A concensus among those who've watched film is that Worley was extremely good. Bradberry exploded later in the year, but at a time it was Worley who was ahead of the learning curve, even though brief it may be.

So, I'd love to hear your counter for the thread above. Provided film evidence and stats. Wonder what you have to back up your idea that I'm a "Gettleman-nuthugger" for saying otherwise.

[uncfan888]

Jerry fuged up and took the franchise backwards. Jeremy should lock any thread about Gettleman or hurney. There's like 5 people in here that love hurney  and hate Gettleman and pie each other constantly in threads about it. It's getting old. 

Time to move on

[panther4life]

Just now, Saca312 said:

Lmao. If I say that Worley's good, I'm a Gettleman nuthugger? What kind of argument is that?

A concensus among those who've watched film is that Worley was extremely good. Bradberry exploded later in the year, but at a time it was Worley who was ahead of the learning curve, even though brief it may be.

So, I'd love to hear your counter for the thread above. Provided film evidence and stats. Wonder what you have to back up your idea that I'm a "Gettleman-nuthugger" for saying otherwise.

Your every post since he was fired says your a nut hugger nothing to do with Worley.

[*FreeFua*]

4 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Ealy would've been clear-cut Superbowl MVP had we won the game. Even if he did disappoint last season, he's not a miss. 

Remind me what round Tre Boston was picked in. I would say he's been a servicable starter for the value he was taken in. Sure, he's inconsistent, but he has shown good flashes. 

I'd take that any day for the round he was drafted in.

Bene is not a miss. He was a very good corner trending up right up to his leg injury. For a guy who could've been a solid starter before his injury, he did enough to warrant a fifth round pick.

For Daryl William's value, he's a good hit. Better than Remmers, and did pretty well against better competition throughout last season. 

Your luxury argument makes you look pathetic. Shaq has done a lot, especially considering most of Gman's picks are bottom 20 in each round.

Sanchez is still debatable. A lot like Norman his rookie year.

So much wrong with this.

[panther4life]

2 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Jerry fuged up and took the franchise backwards. Jeremy should lock any thread about Gettleman or hurney. There's like 5 people in here that love hurney  and hate Gettleman and pie each other constantly in threads about it. It's getting old. 

Time to move on

It almost feels like justice was served to have the tables turned. There are many who feel the same, but don't want to engage the gettlepie train as it was pointless. Now we can rejoice. 

[TheRed]

Not muh Gettleman!!

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, panther4life said:

Your every post since he was fired says your a nut hugger nothing to do with Worley.

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Worley- jury still out, anyone crowning him as a hit at this point is blindly being a Gettleman homer

Go ahead. Show me why he sucks.

Show me evidence in his film. I already showed plenty of that. If you can't do that, you have no credibility whatsoever in your statement above.

[panther4life]

2 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Go ahead. Show me why he sucks.

Show me evidence in his film. I already showed plenty of that. If you can't do that, you have no credibility whatsoever in your statement above.

I didn't say he sucked. I said the jury is still out on him. I did say however anyone crowning him a "hit" at this stage is a blind Gettleman homer. And no I don't have 3 days to read your longass thread on Worley.