Dave Gettleman Hired By The NY Giants As Their New GM

[frash.exe]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

You're better than this bro.

Our spats over the last few months aside. I would think we could agree that beyond the stupid Gettleman vs Hurney narratives that only ever go one way, Gettleman was not without some serious faults that honestly are still costing this team even right now. We need better than the JR stamped status quo that still hasn't brought us back to back winning records. That means better than both Hurney, and Gettleman.

if your point is that he is flawed bc he signed matt kalil, well once upon a time, bill belichick spent 20 million guaranteed on adalius thomas. 

if your point is that he should’ve respected the sanctity of existing locker room stalwarts, namely one forever-a-raven-number-89-smith-sr, sorry but i don’t believe it’s a GM’s job to appease tenured players, bc i don’t idolize players like they’re superheroes incarnate. but the day he cut smith marks a bold line where many ppl on here decided they no longer liked gettleman and have been railing against him ever since for every little personnel decision he made that doesn’t look good at the moment. right now it’s matt kalil. a few months ago, it was devin funchess, but since he has been improving and producing we can’t use him to validate our hate anymore. 

also this whole “back-to-back winning seasons” thing is nonsense. the team won the south three years in a row. they went to the playoffs three years in a row. he brought consistency here. this is just clever phrasing to make it sound like he didn’t, based on the technicality of their record in 2014.

my problem with the current product on the field is ron and the offensive coaching, and that it’s still the embodiment of what JR always really wanted in a football team; a boring offense that only cares about running and not much else, sitting on 6 point leads in a league where good offenses can put up 24 in one quarter, and a good defense. we’ve gotten to see ron fug up so many times, but since he advocates the brand of football JR wanted, he always stayed. same for shula and his lack of imagination, never developing a short passing game, living off of cam converting 3rd downs with his legs for fuging years, etc.

now that JR is gone, i have a restored hope in a paradigm shift for the panthers. hopefully we can find another gm with a football mind and an ability to find value in free agency. but it’s also going to take a new owner that’s not meddlesome and trifling to really unlock god mode.

[Fox007]

1 minute ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

given the fact we lost like 8 games by 1 score or less, and the fact our secondary was absolute trash last year, yes, Norman could have easily made the difference in a few games last year, not just on the field, but playing opposite of Bradberry while also mentoring him and Worley in the process. 

instead our GM decided to throw 3 rookie corners to the wolves and watched them get eaten alive every Sunday. great strategy to get back to the dance following a 15-1 superbowl year. 

Our troubles have been on offense, even when the defense (Rivera's prevent) let the other team back in. At the beginning of the year we had one of the worst performing offenses you'll ever see. Cam wasn't healthy and Olsen was out and Kalil was out.....that is a poo ton more important than Norman.

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

1 minute ago, Cary Kollins said:

The fact that there’s almost a 20 page thread with fiery discussion about another team hiring a GM is awesome. The huddle is great.

loll we have more posts than the Giants do on their own hire. 

http://boards.giants.com/forum/new-york-giants-message-boards/talk-about-giants-football/3045152-official-giants-hired-new-gm-gettleman

[Porn Shop Clerk]

[backtobackwinningseasons]

1 minute ago, frash.exe said:

if your point is that he is flawed bc he signed matt kalil, well once upon a time, bill belichick spent 20 million guaranteed on adalius thomas. 

Stop right here

When Gettleman has half the track record of Belichick (even if we go by Belichick's track record at the time Thomas was signed), you can maybe begin to use him as a comparison. 

[Fox007]

@E CaT PanTHer 2 oh and SHula

Shula at OC is always pulling the team down like gravity.

[rodeo]

Dave was super duper high on OBJ coming out of college. He's gonna be a kid in a candy store there rebuilding a solid team without a bunch of people making fun of his accent in a hick drawl

[TheRed]

7 minutes ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

lol Ted Ginn didn't beat us

Never said he beat us by himself. He fills one role within a complete offense.

We have an 8th overall RB who can't crack 400 yards rushing. We have no WR's that threaten defenses outside of Devin Funchess. And our QB leads the team in rushing. What about this is satisfactory to you? We're in this situation because of both Hurney, and DG.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Eager to see if he learn from his critical errors in his time here. Going to be a good compare and contrast in a couple of years. I’m on the boat that he did a sunpar job overall here

[backtobackwinningseasons]

Just now, rodeo said:

Dave was super duper high on OBJ coming out of college. He's gonna be a kid in a candy store there rebuilding a solid team without a bunch of people making fun of his accent in a hick drawl

They're 2-14 and they don't have anything close to the building blocks like he got with Cam and Luke before he even got here.

 

They will be hiring a new GM in 5 years.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Never said he beat us by himself. He fills one role within a complete offense.

We have an 8th overall RB who can't crack 400 yards rushing. We have no WR's that threaten defenses outside of Devin Funchess. And our QB leads the team in rushing. What about this is satisfactory to you? We're in this situation because of both Hurney, and DG.

We also had a meddling owner and we're unsure of how many of those decisions Gettleman was pressed to make.

[heel31ok]

Just now, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

given the fact we lost like 8 games by 1 score or less, and the fact our secondary was absolute trash last year, yes, Norman could have easily made the difference in a few games last year, not just on the field, but playing opposite of Bradberry while also mentoring him and Worley in the process. 

instead our GM decided to throw 3 rookie corners to the wolves and watched them get eaten alive every Sunday. great strategy to get back to the dance following a 15-1 superbowl year. 

this is the real issue after playing hard ball with Norman and losing him  then G-man panicked in the draft ...he lost his cool and that wasn't cool...unless someone wants to suggest that draft was his plan all along.

[BigKing]

Gettleman made mistakes, but so does every single GM and coach in this league.  His positives far outweighed his negatives so those that continue to rail on him either expect perfection--or near it--and/or simply don't like the guy.  Amazing to be reading multiple cries about the Butler mistake while Marty Hurney is the current GM.

As for last season, it's ridiculous to pin 6-10 completely on the secondary.  Offense was trash, Gano misses some FGs and you have DA making starts.  That 6-10 is shared by the entire team and is not because Norman wasn't here.  DG bungled that situation as you should get something for him at the very least, but they aren't 10-6 with him.

Anyways, no surprise he has another GM job.  Anybody that has taken a team out of cap hell while simultaneously fielding a competitive team is going to be attractive to any owner that is still in full controls of his faculties.

[TheRed]

Just now, Porn Shop Clerk said:

We also had a meddling owner and we're unsure of how many of those decisions Gettleman was pressed to make.

When Gettleman was swinging his dick around cutting fan favorites nobody said a damn thing about JR forcing his hand. Now all the sudden poor ol' Gettleman just had no choice but to fall on his sword to JR's every demand. What a crock of poo.