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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I'm reminded of a saying about not resting on your laurels.

Can't recall the source though. Anyone? Bueller?

 Cut your best defensive player (in the secondary) and then spend an entire draft reaching trying to replace him. Sounds like a winning formula. 

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10 minutes ago, The Natural said:

 Cut your best defensive player (in the secondary) and then spend an entire draft reaching trying to replace him. Sounds like a winning formula. 

Then let your only legit speed threat walk 2 separate times in 3 years in favor of a jag only to watch it blow up in your face both times.

Executive of the year!

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21 minutes ago, TheRed said:

It's a shame we fell so far so quickly after that Super Bowl.

It's like we followed a how to guide for dummies.

I really wonder if we had won that game and not played the Broncos week 1 and lost to them if 2016 would've gone so poorly. Everything else (the roster) stays the same, except we win in 2015 and open up the season at home. Honestly I feel like we would've been at least 10-6 and made the playoffs. That loss and the season opener loss (and the league letting Cam get murdered all game) killed the heart of our team and set the tone for that terrible season. If we had just won that god damn game we could've been talking beginning of dynasty. Now I have no clue if we'll even win one any time soon. The whole team just flopped, and we didn't have the luck that Atlanta had this year following their choke job.

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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Thank Graham Gano for that.

Gano's miss was killer and he's far from absolved from blame, however both the defense and offense deserve blame as well. Offense started out hot, and as usual with Shula offenses struggled the rest of the way. Defense dominated early and then let Trevor f*cking Siemien making his first start pick them apart in the second half to come back from down 10 or 14 (I forget which, but it was two scores). Pretty silly to blame one player for a loss unless it's a Jake Delhomme vs Cardinals meltdown.

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1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

Gano's miss was killer and he's far from absolved from blame, however both the defense and offense deserve blame as well. Offense started out hot, and as usual with Shula offenses struggled the rest of the way. Defense dominated early and then let Trevor f*cking Siemien making his first start pick them apart in the second half to come back from down 10 or 14 (I forget which, but it was two scores). Pretty silly to blame one player for a loss unless it's a Jake Delhomme vs Cardinals meltdown.

Cam and the offense put us in position to win the game despite the defense literally trying to take Newton's head off through 4 quarters. In Mile High.

How you can spin that to blame the offense is beyond me. But do you I guess.

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20 minutes ago, The Natural said:

 Cut your best defensive player (in the secondary) and then spend an entire draft reaching trying to replace him. Sounds like a winning formula. 

How did DG reach in that draft? Bradberry is a solid starter as a late second rounder. Great value there. Worley would be a solid backup CB and for a third rounder that's good value. Sanchez wound up being a bad pick but he was a 5th rounder, nothing is a "reach" in those rounds. Butler wound up being a bad pick so far, but that's partially due to lack of opportunity with Star and KK here, and that may change if Star walks now. But regardless of that he was not a reach at all--other teams wanted him at that back end of the first round and that's where he was expected to go all along.  Not the best draft 2 years in but that's still too early to evaluate fully and good draft or not, it wasn't reaching to replace Norman whatsoever.

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3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Cam and the offense put us in position to win the game despite the defense literally trying to take Newton's head off through 4 quarters. In Mile High.

How you can spin that to blame the offense is beyond me. But do you I guess.

20 points. League average that year was 22.7. Praising being in a position to make a 50 yarder at the end of the game is the definition of praising mediocrity. You want to win the game, score touchdowns. And I find it interesting how you immediately place Cam in this discussion and defend him specifically, when he wasn't even a part of my post. I'm talking entire offense not Cam. But it doesn't surprise me that you're playing victim for Cam randomly when no one was saying anything bad about him. 

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