Spagnuolo claims Patriots knew Eagles' signals in Super Bowl XXXIX

[Darvinsun]

14 hours ago, TN05 said:

You can't fugging gameplan for plays you've never seen before. You can (and will) succeed against some, but not all. And you sure as hell won't know what is happening on all of them.

What makes Luke Kuechly great is he can predict offenses. He does this without cheating.

What made Peyton Manning great was he could predict defense. He did this without cheating.

So are you saying that Bill is not capable of doing this. It is one thing to luck up and win a championship and barely make it to the playoffs. Patriots have won consistently through the years and have done it with several moving parts. Maybe he did some underhanded things once but the Patriots have consistently beat teams regular season and post. You can not predict how things are going to play out because it involves the actions of players on the field and refs. I do belief that refs are bia at times tho it's part of human nature and some do not turn away but give in. Being unpredictable is what beats the pats it always does.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

You set my point, that signals should never be and excuse to lose a game.

Henning changed plans and we had the most yards in a quarter ever? So the signal bs had nothing to do with John Kasay booting out of bounds the last drive right?

Your post is completely ridiculous. They’ve been in now 8 Superbowls. 

They are just better than everyone else and a lot of things and win.

the only way everyone else can sleep at night is just to go on this silly tangent.

i would rather have a team that just finds a way to get better than one that just makes excuses and is totally content on making the playoffs.

They're actually not appreciably superior in a lot of areas.

Again, if they were "just better than everybody else", they wouldn't need to cheat.

Seeing as they do need to cheat, they're not as good as you think.

[JARROD]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

They're actually not appreciably superior in a lot of areas.

Again, if they were "just better than everybody else", they wouldn't need to cheat.

Seeing as they do need to cheat, they're not as good as you think.

7 AFC championship appearances in a row and 4 Super Bowl appearances in the last 6 years, 2 wins and another up for grabs says they are better than everyone else today at winning.

so yeh they are better.

[Anybodyhome]

6 minutes ago, JARROD said:

7 AFC championship appearances in a row and 4 Super Bowl appearances in the last 6 years, 2 wins and another up for grabs says they are better than everyone else today at winning.

so yeh they are better.

So, you just really don't get it, do you? 

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

So, you just really don't get it, do you? 

Do you?

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, JARROD said:

7 AFC championship appearances in a row and 4 Super Bowl appearances in the last 6 years, 2 wins and another up for grabs says they are better than everyone else today at winning.

so yeh they are better.

And you truly believe all of that was done without cheating?

It's pretty clear that the facts don't actually matter to you on this case.

[Anybodyhome]

2 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Do you?

Good answer.

On par with your others, which offer no evidence, facts or other information beyond, "...sour grapes..." or, "...they're just better.."

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

And you truly believe all of that was done without cheating?

It's pretty clear that the facts don't actually matter to you on this case.

And you truly believe that it did so you can sleep better at night?

The 3 Superbowls in question all were decided by a touchdown or less.

rams and panthers a field goal and Phili a touchdown. 

In each case the losing teams had plenty of chances to win but didn’t.

the Giants beat the Patriots in 2 Superbowls so they didn’t make excuses, found ways to win. Did they cheat too? 

This is a ridiculous argument. Had the Rams Panthers and Eagles found a way to win those 3 Superbowls would we even talk about this?

[JARROD]

2 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Good answer.

On par with your others, which offer no evidence, facts or other information beyond, "...sour grapes..." or, "...they're just better.."

What evidence and facts? The facts and the record says 8 Super Bowl appearances and 5 wins, 7 AFC championships in the last 7 years. 

Hell they went 11-5 with Matt Cassel.

they are just better than everyone else. That’s indisputable.

[JARROD]

Look dudes, I can’t argue and you guys can’t argue with bias.

you guys sleep better thinking that the indisputed best team ever in football is only that because they are cheaters.

i believe they are because of a perfect storm of best coach and best quarterback combined with the best in season training for next player up, most innovation and finding edges when no one else can.

pressing receivers at the line when they could, having backup tightends play right tackle, rewriting the book on slot receivers and bubble screens, 

taking peoples signals has been something that has happened since football began— some teams innovate and some teams fall victim.

It’s an argument that we can keep going back and forth, you all can keep on insulting me and throwing poo.

you guys can go on sleeping better at night believing that signals and deflated footballs are the only reason the Panthers fail to win Superbowls.

and belief like that will be the reason our team never wins a Super Bowl.

or adapting and evolving from making excuses and learning to properly utilize talent, finding ways to win and making in game adjustments quickly will be the reason we do.

id rather it be the latter, not the former— attitudes like yours will cause the former.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, JARROD said:

Look dudes, I can’t argue and you guys can’t argue with bias.

you guys sleep better thinking that the indisputed best team ever in football is only that because they are cheaters.

i believe they are because of a perfect storm of best coach and best quarterback combined with the best in season training for next player up, most innovation and finding edges when no one else can.

pressing receivers at the line when they could, having backup tightends play right tackle, rewriting the book on slot receivers and bubble screens, 

taking peoples signals has been something that has happened since football began— some teams innovate and some teams fall victim.

It’s an argument that we can keep going back and forth, you all can keep on insulting me and throwing poo.

you guys can go on sleeping better at night believing that signals and deflated footballs are the only reason the Panthers fail to win Superbowls.

and belief like that will be the reason our team never wins a Super Bowl.

or adapting and evolving from making excuses and learning to properly utilize talent, finding ways to win and making in game adjustments quickly will be the reason we do.

id rather it be the latter, not the former— attitudes like yours will cause the former.

Dude, you've been shown plenty of evidence, and your basic response is to stick your fingers in your ears and go "blah blah blah not listening".

You don't have a single effective counter to any of the facts that have been presented to you other than to just repeat over and over again "yeah well, they're just better than everybody else" as if that could be codified or actually meant something.

If anybody's biased, it's you.

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Dude, you've been shown plenty of evidence, and your basic response is to stick your fingers in your ears and go "blah blah blah not listening".

You don't have a single effective counter to any of the facts that have been presented to you other than to just repeat over and over again "yeah well, they're just better than everybody else" as if that could be codified or actually meant something.

If anybody's biased, it's you.

What facts? That they win all the time?

 

[Anybodyhome]

4 minutes ago, JARROD said:

What facts? That they win all the time?

 

Go back to page 1 and read the OP, that's where the facts begin. But you claim to have read that, so I'm not sure you're capable of being helped.

[jasonluckydog]

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