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Mr. Scot

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hue Jackson and Todd Haley are both known for being a--holes, so when Haley joined Jackson's staff in Cleveland, a lot of people said that could be a train wreck waiting to happen.

Looks like the train might just be starting down the track.

 Hard Knocks debut foreshadows potential dysfunction

Florio points out (and it's definitely worth noting) that all this happened with TV Cameras running.

I know a lot of folks wanted Jackson over Shula as Chudzinski's replacement (though most now seem to agree Shurmur would have been the better choice) but knowing what we know of Rivera's personality and Jackson's, I just have a really hard time seeing that pairing work out.

Jackson and Rivera might not have been the disaster film that Jackson and Haley have the potential to be, but it would have at least had the potential to be a really bad movie of the week.

Has there ever been a Hard Knocks team that didn't trainwreck?

This one with the Browns could play out like a 1970s disaster movie of the week level trainwreck. One without a guest starring role for OJ Simpson, though. 

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14 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Has there ever been a Hard Knocks team that didn't trainwreck?

This one with the Browns could play out like a 1970s disaster movie of the week level trainwreck. One without a guest starring role for OJ Simpson, though. 

How many times has Hard Knocks featured a team with Hue Jackson on staff?

I don't think that's an accident.

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Jalen Ramsey has...opinions.
 

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“I think (Josh) Allen is trash,” Ramsey told GQ. “I don’t care what nobody say. He’s trash. And it’s gonna show too. That’s a stupid draft pick to me. We play them this year, and I’m excited as hell. I hope he’s their starting quarterback. He played at Wyoming. Every time they played a big school—like, they played Iowa State, which is not a big school in my opinion because I went to Florida State, and he threw five interceptions, and they lost by a couple touchdowns or something like that. He never beat a big school. If you look at his games against big schools, it was always hella interceptions, hella turnovers. It’s like: Yo, if you’re this good, why couldn’t you do better? He fits that mold, he’s a big, tall quarterback. Big arm, supposedly. I don’t see it, personally.”

Ramsey said Lamar Jackson, who eventually went 32nd overall to Baltimore, should have been chosen sooner and will be the Ravens’ starting quarterback.

“Flacco sucks. I played him two years in a row. He sucks,” Ramsey said.

Ramsey also wasn’t impressed when he matched up with Roethlisberger.

“Big Ben, I think he’s decent at best,” Ramsey said. “It’s not Big Ben, it’s [Antonio Brown]. Big Ben slings the ball a lot of the time. He just slings it, and his receivers go get it. He has a strong arm, but he ain’t all that. I played him twice last year, and he really disappointed me.”

And Ramsey doesn’t think highly of Ryan.

“I think Matt Ryan’s overrated,” Ramsey said. “You can’t tell me you win MVP two years ago, and then last year, you a complete bust, and you still got Julio Jones? There’s no way that should ever happen. I don’t care. You know what that tells me? That tells me [Kyle] Shanahan left, went to San Francisco, got [Jimmy] Garoppolo, made Garoppolo this big thing. And now Garoppolo is a big name—and now [Ryan] has this bad year? Alright, well, was it really you, or was it your coach? He was doing what was asked of him and it was making him look really, really good.”

So which quarterbacks don’t suck, in Ramsey’s view?

“Aaron Rodgers does not. Tom Brady doesn’t,” Ramsey said. “I gotta think now, about all the teams. . . . I think Marcus Mariota is a great quarterback for their team. I think Tyrod Taylor is actually a better quarterback than he gets credit for, because he does not make mistakes. He’s honestly a Marcus Mariota type player, where he manages a game really well, always has them at least in position to be in the game late in the game. . . . Deshaun Watson, he’ll be the league MVP in a couple years. One hundred percent. There’s not even a debate about that. Him and Carson Wentz, for every year starting now until five to 10 years, it’s gonna be them two. They’re that good. . . . Dak Prescott, he’s good. He’s alright. He’s OK.”

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For those who might have forgotten, Ramsey went after Steve Smith a while back too (link)
 

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Smith and Ramsey exchanged words on the field after the game before they were separated.

Then in the locker room, Ramsey had plenty to say, considering the Jaguars (0-3) lost, again, and that Smith had his best game of the season – eight catches for 87 yards.

Ramsey took jobs at Smith being 37 years old, among other things.  Asked why things got heated between him and Smith, Ramsey said, “I don’t know. Ask him. When you’ve been beating the opponent that’s in front of you both physically and psychologically all day, they tend to get mad like that. I don’t care how old he is. If that made him angry then he can go home and sleep on it. I don’t care. It is what it is.”

Asked if he was made that Smith talked to him after the game, Ramsey said, “Yeah, but I’m not worried about him. He was still mad that I was locking him up. Alright, well sleep on it. I’m not trying to hear that after the game.”

Did Ramsey think he got in Smith’s head?

“What do you think?” Ramsey said. “You tell me. Any time I lined up on him – y’all go watch that.  Y’all tell me who got in whose head. He came up to me after the game. He’s an old man acting like that.”

Smith’s retort on Twitter was classic Smith.

“I gave U every opportunity to speak face to face,” Smith wrote. “But you found your voice safely behind closed doors. Young man, I don’t need ur respect! In 5 to 10 u will be retiring and they will be taking my measurements for something you will NEVER BE #HOFer. I got cleats with stronger thread then you!!!”

 

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