Does Norv trust CAM throwing the ball?

[TheSpecialJuan]

On 10/17/2018 at 5:18 AM, Ace_Aladdin said:

It seems like ole Norv. is still calling plays from Shula’s playbook, and using the frachinse QB as a battering ram. What ever happened to running more pro-style offense and using the QB as QB that can make plays from the pocket first. Do you think he doesn’t trust Cam’s throwing ability? Why did Norv call a read-option play on 2 &17 when most competent offenses would look to pass first? 

Yes, he trusts him and loves him very much. 

[Trill OG]

Do you trust driving a 2010 Mercedes E350 coupe with 150,000 miles on it for a year with no mechanical problems?

 

Hell no Norv doesn't trust Cam throwing the ball. How many times have we thrown the deep ball this year? This offense has been running the ball and snapping the ball with the play clock at 1 second.

[TheCasillas]

9 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

Do you trust driving a 2010 Mercedes E350 coupe with 150,000 miles on it for a year with no mechanical problems?

That analogy makes zero sense.... If you are using the 150k miles as an figurative identifier of Cam's age, then i'd say Cam would 75k mileage. If you are using the 150k as a figurative identifier of Cam's arm, i'd still stick with 75k. If you are referring to Cam's legs, WTF does that have to with throwing the football?

All-in-all Mercedes are well built cars, my father took care of his and it went 185k before having to shut it down. However, that was a 1987 Mercedes.

Also, why so specific on the make and model? lol. 

[Trill OG]

11 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

That analogy makes zero sense.... If you are using the 150k miles as an figurative identifier of Cam's age, then i'd say Cam would 75k mileage. If you are using the 150k as a figurative identifier of Cam's arm, i'd still stick with 75k. If you are referring to Cam's legs, WTF does that have to with throwing the football?

All-in-all Mercedes are well built cars, my father took care of his and it went 185k before having to shut it down. However, that was a 1987 Mercedes.

Also, why so specific on the make and model? lol. 

Bruh you took that comment and ran with it huh?

The mileage has nothing to do with Cam's age.lol

The point was do you trust a car with that kind of mileage to last a full year with no mechanical problems? My point was Hell No. Hell no Norv doesn't trust Cam running his offense. As Cam is the Mercedes.

*Also if you know anything about Mercedes you know the new models aren't built like the older models. The reliability sucks especially if you are over 100,000 miles. And don't get me started on the maintenance cost for a foreign vehicle.

Look at the value on E350 coupes, there is a reason why you can get them dirt cheap. The reliability and maintenance cost play a major part in the low price.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Trill OG said:

Bruh you took that comment and ran with it huh?

The mileage has nothing to do with Cam's age.lol

The point was do you trust a car with that kind of mileage to last a full year with no mechanical problems? My point was Hell No. Hell no Cam doesn't trust Cam running his offense.

*Also if you know anything about Mercedes you know the new models aren't built like the older models. The reliability sucks especially if you are over 100,000 miles. And don't get me started on the maintenance cost for a foreign vehicle.

Look at the value on E350 coupes, there is a reason why you can get them dirt cheap. The reliability and maintenance cost play a major part in the low price.

I am familiar. I believe I said "However, that was 1987 model." No car is made to last, don't care what brand. 

Still a bad analogy. Also, I disagree. Norv hasn't even opened up the playbook, if he didn't trust Cam, Cam wouldn't have 40 throws in a game. 

[Trill OG]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I am familiar. I believe I said "However, that was 1987 model." No car is made to last, don't care what brand. 

Still a bad analogy. Also, I disagree. Norv hasn't even opened up the playbook, if he didn't trust Cam, Cam wouldn't have 40 throws in a game. 

I have a 2009 Toyota Camry my daily driver at 230,000 miles and still running like a champ. Cars can last long if you take care of them properly. Mercedes even with proper maintenance are a pain in the ass. Don't believe me ask a Mercedes owner.

Kind of hard to not throw the ball 40 times when you're down 2 TD's in the 1st quarter. lol

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Trill OG said:

I have a 2009 Toyota Camry my daily driver at 230,000 miles and still running like a champ. Cars can last long if you take care of them properly. Mercedes even with proper maintenance are a pain in the ass. Don't believe me ask a Mercedes owner.

Kind of hard to not throw the ball 40 times when you're down 2 TD's in the 1st quarter. lol

So Cam can run Norv's offense....? A prime example of a quarterback not able to run an OC's offense would be Derek Carr in Oakland. Cam, fortunately, looks nothing like that. 

Again, I disagree, but we don't have to agree.

[jtm]

I think he trusts Cam to throw the ball and the only reason the Panthers didn't run more last week is because the Redskins jumped out to an early lead out of nowhere.  Hindsight, this was probably a mistake but Norv gets paid the big bucks to make these calls and it is easy to criticize after the fact.

The Panthers have run the ball a lot this year and I think folks here were complaining that he was running too much during the Giants game, so he pretty much can't make anyone here happy.  

[Trill OG]

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

So Cam can run Norv's offense....? A prime example of a quarterback not able to run an OC's offense would be Derek Carr in Oakland. Cam, fortunately, looks nothing like that. 

Again, I disagree, but we don't have to agree.

I think Cam can run his offense, I just don't think it is the best offense to run with a QB like Cam. I would like to get a OC who runs a fast pace offense and let Cam rip it on the move. This slow paced offense is not pleasing to watch as a fan, especially when you know Cam can do more for a offense.

[TheCasillas]

12 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

I think Cam can run his offense, I just don't think it is the best offense to run with a QB like Cam. I would like to get a OC who runs a fast pace offense and let Cam rip it on the move. This slow paced offense is not pleasing to watch as a fan, especially when you know Cam can do more for a offense.

The way Cam plays the QB position in a fast paced offense would exhaust him, ahha. We would have to tell him dont scramble and run, throw the ball away to preserve his energy.  He already looks winded in a slow paced offense. He does a lot.

[jtm]

Us fans don't understand why we can't blow out every team, but the reality is most games in the NFL come down to one or two possessions.  This year in our loses, we've been poor in those one or two possessions and this is why we lost.  

[Fox007]

On 10/17/2018 at 9:40 AM, FugAllY'all said:

Again, this his who Norv had in San Diego:

- Philip Rivers

- Antonio Gates

- Vincent Jackson

- Malcom Floyd

Now go lookup their run/pass differential during that time. Norv likes to run the ball. The fact that he now has a QB who is one of the better ball carriers in the entire league wasn't going to tamp that preference. He also has a couple pretty good backs in McCaffrey and Anderson.

Truth is, we should be running the ball a lot. This team is built to ground and pound and there's just too much youth and inexperience to go full throttle all game like people like. Even if we did, people should never have expected that from a Norv Turner offense under Ron Rivera. Hell, these two literally coached in San Diego, it's the same conductors playing the same song. Norv trusts Cam just as much as he trusted Rivers, Aikman, or any QB he's ever had.

Doesn't matter we also have a makeshift OL and the clock could strike midnight on that one anytime gotta play more games to make sure they are for real.

Also when teams stack 9 in the box gods damn what you're 'built' for. THe best way to be built is to be able to adjust and adapt to situations. ROFL yea that's gonna be a Carolina thing....anytime fugin soon...

[Ace_Aladdin]

On 10/18/2018 at 1:36 PM, Trill OG said:

I think Cam can run his offense, I just don't think it is the best offense to run with a QB like Cam. I would like to get a OC who runs a fast pace offense and let Cam rip it on the move. This slow paced offense is not pleasing to watch as a fan, especially when you know Cam can do more for a offense.

Having your QB being the leading rusher is not ideal .... just ask the 31 other teams.