7 players in coverage, 2 receivers in a vertical route

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

Please explain 

That's a pretty standard cover 3 zone look, called cover 3 because you have three guys in deep coverage. The only wrinkle is that since they had no one split out wide right, Bradberry rolled over top to act as the FS while Adams dropped down to act as the outside CB. Forget those labels though, they're irrelevant. Jackson, Bradberry, and Adams all three had deep coverage responsibility with Jackson to their respective third of the field. Reid and Shaq had responsibility for the flats on their respective side of the field. Luke and TD had the short middle of the field. Thats why it looked weird on this graphic. All four guys end up covering no one because the defensive play call doesn't ask for them to cover anyone. They're asked to cover their zone of the field which they do.

As soon as the ball is snapped, Bradberry cheats toward Adams' side because he knows Adams is slow as fug. This leaves Jackson one on one on an island and he got beat. That's what happened on that play. It's on Jackson and to a lesser extent on Bradberry as well though I understand why Bradberry played it the way that he did. It's primarily on Jackson. Oh... and on the front four because no one got even close to Mayfield.

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, beastson said:

Why are we still running zone trying to fight into the playoffs? Make receivers defeat press coverage every fuging play of the game.

Because our corners suck at press man coverage?

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Because our corners suck at press man coverage?

Bradberry doesn't. He sucks playing off.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Bradberry doesn't. He sucks playing off.

He struggles making contact sometimes wiffing on the press which puts him.behind the receiver. He also doesn't have a lot of hand strength and can't redirect the receiver. He is not great mirroring the receiver step for step and isn't athletic going up and fighting for the ball. He has some good games against specific receivers but struggles against physical fast ones. He plays off because of the problems above.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/james-bradberry/

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

He struggles making contact sometimes wiffing on the press which puts him.behind the receiver. He also doesn't have a lot of hand strength and can't redirect the receiver. He is not great mirroring the receiver step for step and isn't athletic going up and fighting for the ball. He has some good games against specific receivers but struggles against physical fast ones. He plays off because of the problems above.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/james-bradberry/

He definitely struggles against speed receivers, but he's really good against bigger receivers like Julio, Mike Evans, etc. Once Jackson gets up to speed, I actually think we have a pair of corners who match up really well against most teams. We gotta get a legit true FS to play over the top though. Lacking that piece is a big reason why we play so much off coverage. It's a piece this defense has been missing for the majority of the history of the franchise.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He definitely struggles against speed receivers, but he's really good against bigger receivers like Julio, Mike Evans, etc. Once Jackson gets up to speed, I actually think we have a pair of corners who match up really well against most teams. We gotta get a legit true FS to play over the top though. Lacking that piece is a big reason why we play so much off coverage. It's a piece this defense has been missing for the majority of the history of the franchise.

Agree on the free safety. Truth is given all the 4 and 5 receiver sets we see, we need 2 free safeties who can cover and tackle since in our scheme the strong and free safeties are interchangeable. And let's can Munnerlyn who just sucks playing the slot.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Agree on the free safety. Truth is given all the 4 and 5 receiver sets we see, we need 2 free safeties who can cover and tackle since in our scheme the strong and free safeties are interchangeable. And let's can Munnerlyn who just sucks playing the slot.

I hope we have yet to see what our scheme is moving forward. We've had some good times under Ron but it's time for a change.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope we have yet to see what our scheme is moving forward. We've had some good times under Ron but it's time for a change.

I want a new defensive coordinator who is aggressive. I doubt Ron would keep his hands off the defense like he does the offense so he will most likely have to go in order to accomplish that. But I could see Ron getting one more year if he let the new DC do their job. I am not sure if he could do that.

[Eazy-E]

Ron's soft ass zone hard at work.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I want a new defensive coordinator who is aggressive. I doubt Ron would keep his hands off the defense like he does the offense so he will most likely have to go in order to accomplish that. But I could see Ron getting one more year if he let the new DC do their job. I am not sure if he could do that.

I've never thought much of Ron as an in game chess player, so if we have to entrust him to be completely hands off of both the offense and the defense and he isn't a great in-game coach... what exactly is he good for?

It's time for Ron to go.

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've never thought much of Ron as an in game chess player, so if we have to entrust him to be completely hands off of both the offense and the defense and he isn't a great in-game coach... what exactly is he good for?

It's time for Ron to go.

Chess player?  More like Go Fish

[Palmetto]

Secondary is not that good to have the safety playing that close to the line

as soon as Mayfield saw a single safety drifting to his right he knew Perriman was getting the ball

[Palmetto]

1 hour ago, Riverboat Ron said:

This defense is pathetic, makes me sick to watch.

That user name is going to be awkward if Ron is fired