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NFL Combine Thread

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3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

See my edit. I mainly just looked at NFL.com. Dillard is universally ahead of Risner and only one case was Little. If Bradbury is getting more hype Risner seems like a candidate to fall to 47. Little looked like garbage but everyone seems to love Dillard. Not me.

I dont know

The only ones ive seen that had Dillard ahead were those ones on nfl.com especially after senior bowl week

Its a toss up with Little

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46 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It’s funny that people bash the combine but damn it’s pretty easy to separate some people. It’s not perfect but that little segment showing James Daniels (freaking loves him last year) swinging hips open to come off a double team and get the twisting DT was perfect. It showed which guys could make that and which would let Trubisky get trucked. 

With respect, there is Orlando Brown Jr.

Dude had a terrible combine.  Looked weak, slow, said dumb things.  Then he becomes a 3rd round pick and turned out to be a quality OT for the Ravens.

To me, the combine is just part of the process.  You have to look at both the game tape, and use the combine to see if your earlier scouting was right.  But sometimes, it's just wrong.  We see combine stars flame out, as well as combine loser turn into ALL Pros.  If the dude can make the block, the combine doesn't do a whole lot to change that in the case of an OL.

 

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Just now, d-dave said:

With respect, there is Orlando Brown Jr.

Dude had a terrible combine.  Looked weak, slow, said dumb things.  Then he becomes a 3rd round pick and turned out to be a quality OT for the Ravens.

To me, the combine is just part of the process.  You have to look at both the game tape, and use the combine to see if your earlier scouting was right.  But sometimes, it's just wrong.  We see combine stars flame out, as well as combine loser turn into ALL Pros.  If the dude can make the block, the combine doesn't do a whole lot to change that in the case of an OL.

 

Yeah, but that guy was also a very good college OT. Little hasn't been. He's a his everyone always expects to be great but then he's just not.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, but that guy was also a very good college OT. Little hasn't been. He's a his everyone always expects to be great but then he's just not.

I know nothing about Little =)  So I will defer that to you other experts.  I'm just an internet douchebag after all.

My point was that the combine shouldn't be a sink or swim for an OL.  But if Little's college tape is that bad, it will be exacerbated by the combine.

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I know there were some people on here high on Holyfield, but 4.79/4.81 might make him undraftable. I just can't think of any successful NFL RBs who ran that slow. The holes usually close fast in the NFL and those LBs pursue hard. At some point, you just don't have the prerequisite speed to get to where you need to go quickly enough. I seriously doubt Holyfield translates.

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Suffice it to say the combine isn’t just Olympics. The drills are what really interest me. Little couldn’t swing his hips well in the 45 yard side to side back pedal and his footwork was terrible in the mirror drill. NFL Network did a great job of highlighting a rookie C who did the drill in a pass block and you could see which guys would be able to make that play on the drill. It’s the TE drills that made me like Thomas last year and not like Gesicki. Gesicki was a freak in the numbers but you could tell he wasn’t as good a real TE as Thomas. He didn’t catch naturally and didn’t run the drills well. Kind of like a RB. You can’t measure the vision. That said if you run a 4.8, it won’t matter how good your vision is because you can’t get to the hole anyway. 

Yep, I said last year during thw Combine that I thought Ian Thomas had a chance to end up being the best TE in that draft. I was thrilled when we picked him.

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