There is only 1 scenario for Cam Jerrell Newton in 2020

[Prowler2019]

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

It is not as simple as "Cam is better than...."  First of all, there is no certainty that the verb tense (present) is correct (past could be the issue). 

Since there is indecision about Cam's future, I doubt we get a starting QB and a second rounder.  Teams know that cutting Cam is an option, so they are competing with a 2021 late third round Comp pick.  Trading Cam, by the way, saves the team $21m in cap room, while cutting him saves the team $19m.

Look at it this way
Keep Cam Newton:  We get a solid quarterback who has never been top 10 consistently on the stat board (the ways we measure QBs) with a questionable future (injury history) and who has not won a game in over a year.  If he plays well in 2020, we enter $35m per year contract negotiations with a 32-year old running QB with an injury history,  In addition, we could very well lose Bradberry or Thompson, or both. 

Trading Cam Newton:  We go back into a QB search unless Kyle Allen develops. He is 23 and fits this offense better than Cam--however, how long will RR and NT be here? We would have the money to re-sign Bradberry, Shaq, and we could probably sign a free agent WR or C. If we only get a third rounder for Cam, we could draft a QB in the first round (if you do not like Allen by then) in a deep QB draft.  We are actually in a good position to do that.  We could also draft a DT, S early.  

Knowing what I know of a successful hedge fund managers, they focus on the possibilities in the future, not the past. The get in on the front end and ride the wave, getting off the wave before it crashes.  Staying with Cam with all of these variables working against him is not the way Tepper thinks.  He does not care about the past. The QB-rich draft, Cam's age, future contract (2021) and uncertainty--and Allen/Grier as insurance make the move rather obvious-and I wonder if it has not always been in the backs of minds (why we drafted Grier).   Take the emotions out of it.  It is not which QB is /was better.

 

Great analysis. And something we as fans don't give enough thought to - there's a reason the Panthers drafted a QB in the early rounds of the last draft and it wasn't just to get a good backup. I think the Panthers believe Grier could be a future starter and drafted him for this very reason given Cam's health. As much as I'd hate to admit it, even if Cam gets healthy, trading him is the best business decision this team could make. We can do a lot to fill out this roster with $21 million and build a perennial playoff team. 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

Not if Tepper at least do Cam a favor by sending him to a team he wants to play for

The team he really wants to play for would also have to have a need at quarterback and a willingness to trade us something we want.

[Skack25]

9 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

1. He is suited up in a different uniform via a trade. 

It really is this simple. Why? 
 

1. Trading Cam would free up 19 mil just like cutting Cam

2.  There were rumors not long ago that at least 10 teams were interested in Cam if he was on the market 

3. Tepper, not Rivera or Norv, but Tepper the man himself isn’t stupid enough to just cut Cam Newton and not get anything in return. Cam Newton could net this team as high as a 1st rounder. I’m thinking multiple 2nd and 3rd rounders. 

 

Cam Newton has taken so many hits through his career. Even if he does come back fully healthy, he won’t be the 2015 fully healthy version. There is a reason why a guy like Andrew Luck can just leave this game and hundred of million dollars behind. Cam Newton has taken more hits through the years than Luck. He has never been a great passer and he’s not going to become one overnight. The Panthers didn’t just take Will Grier in the 3rd round because they wanted to, but because they needed to. Ron has spent his entire career here with Cam. Ron knows how Cam’s health and plays have fallen through the years. That’s why they drafted Grier as they were looking for Cam’s replacement. Cam Newton’s time in Carolina has come to an end whether you want to believe it or not. 

 

This is what I expect to happen, not what I want to happen: 

Cam Newton will be traded to the Chicago Bears. 

*Chicago receives Cam Newton

*Carolina receives Mitch Trubisky + 2nd round 
 

Trubisky is still in a rookie contract which would not hurt this team next year. He needs a change of scenery and Carolina would be a nice place for him. He gets to come back to where he played collegiate football. He brings some experience and would make a nice competition at QB next year. Chicago holds two 2nd round picks which gives them ammunition to make this trade happen. 

 

 

 

 

Knee-jerk response without reading any of the other responses:

Why in the actual fug would we make that trade?

[PghPanther]

What kind of crazy post is this?

You say that Cam has this problem and that problem so now the 10 teams that wanted him in the past will want him now?

I got news for all of you.........Cam is a man without a country in the NFL right now..........damaged goods that only works when it is not damaged and nobody knows if it will ever happen again. 

You know what kind of career Cam has at this point in the NFL?....................a post Steeler Cordell Stewart career that's what.

If the guy has plenty of money and good business prospects he'd be smart to retire, manage his business and family while he still has a brain left.

In case you haven't figure it out.......the NFL grinds up players and spits them out when they don't perform anymore.........just like a sale person who used to drive a lot revenue to a company that no longer does.......out the door they go....and qualified fresh meat come on in.

...."its nothing personal........its just business".........hmm sounds familiar huh?

[lightsout]

1 hour ago, Anybodyhome said:

Yeah. Hate to break the news, but that's a part of his career no one will ever see again. 

2 shoulder surgeries in less than 2 years and a potential career-ending lis franc injury are pretty good indicators that any head coach or coordinator who would put him in a position to run, if he gets back on the field, should be immediately fired.

Agree all around, which is why he needs to preserve his reputation and history and retire if he can't be that anymore.

[Happy Panther]

If he would spend as much time...

RIGHT???

[ncsfinest21]

Here is a more logicalview of it. Chicago doesnt have a 1st rd next year. So bears wont be getting Cam. We arent going to trade a franchise QB for a 2nd and 3rd. Maybe someone who has a 1st and a 3rd. Like Tennessee. But I really dont think Cam is going anywhere. They might take a khalil mack and a 2nd but still they wouldnt because of Macks contract. Mitch definitely would not come here.

[Mr. Scot]

I mean, it's not like I have a lot of trust in our front office anyway, but if they ever traded for Mitch Trubisky I think it'd be torches and pitchforks time.

[AceBoogie]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kind of difficult to make that case using Trubisky when he's only been around for three years and is in danger of getting pulled. 

As to the narrative, it depends on what context you're talking about.

If you're talking about fans, maybe. But fans don't matter.

If you're talking about actual NFL teams, I don't agree.

I used to blame the NCAA for a lot of the failures of athletic (not just black) quarterbacks in the NFL because the college teams didn't teach them to be passers. I was hoping that would change.

Well, it did. Now the NCAA doesn't adequately prepare anybody for success in the NFL. Black, white, athletic, non-athletic, doesn't matter.

Colleges in general are doing a piss-poor job at producing NFL ready quarterbacks, and it doesn't look like it's going to be improving anytime soon. Even next year's "expected to be strong" quarterback crop could very well be suspect.

As to Newton's trajectory from here forward being affected by race, again I can't agree.

Newton is a well established commodity. He's had a highly successful career and is appreciated around the league (again, coaches and players, not fans because fans don't matter). It'd be pretty hard for anybody to argue against that.

What's likely to shorten that career though isn't his race.

It's his style of play.

Now, considering his physical gifts, playing that way made sense. But the reality is it was always going to lead to a shorter shelf life. Having the Panthers exploit that style of play didn't make it any better.

In my opinion, the turning point of Cam Newton's career isn't in the last few years. It's in 2013. That was the year that Norv Turner decided to follow Rob Chudzinski to Cleveland instead of joining the Panthers. As a result, Mike Shula got the OC job.

Had Norv Turner become the OC here in 13 rather than Shula, I think we'd have at least one Super Bowl championship right now (maybe more than one) and Newton would be healthier than he is right now.

But he didn't, and we don't, so we have to make the best of the reality that we have right now.

Sucks, but it can't be changed.

Fair assessment