The chicken or the egg?

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, bigdog10 said:

teams are making a pretty consistent habit of making playoff pushes with qbs on rookie deals (unless you have an all time great in Brees, Brady or Rodgers). 

I keep waiting for the QB bubble to pop. At some point, teams have to start understanding that you can't give an average starter or even a pretty good starter the types of contracts that these types of players are getting in today's NFL. Everyone is just terrified of the unknown. They'd rather pay known mediocrity crazy money rather than roll the dice on potentially going backwards in an attempt to go forward.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Moo Daeng said:

That's like one person. Rodgers.

So now you're basically arguing against your own initial argument. Damn. You're a special one.

[Forty-Eight]

5 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Well we did it with the QB first last time then trying to build the team and that worked *ok* so I’d be down to try it the other way this time 

We drafted Cam and just completely ignored the OL. That’s why Cam got killed. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

Super MVPS the last 53 years

29 QBs

ZERO OL

To be fair, Mike Remmers should've won the MVP for the Broncos in SB50.

[jayflip]

Spend draft capital on QB, spend money on OLine. 
 

Not busted, injured OL (cough Paradis cough Kalil), but legit OL talent. 
 

the other offensive weapons are already in place. 

[Forty-Eight]

Drafting an OL means that we will just be wasting a minimum of 3 years of Luke and CMC’s football career. A rookie OL can come in immediately and produce. In example, look at our very own Jordan Gross. We were in the SB his rookie year but we did so with a great defense and having a QB. No rookie QB is going to lead you to a SB. Please name one. QBs need at least 2-3 years to be comfortable and produce at a very high level. You got to take a QB if one is available in this upcoming draft. Groom him for a year and then draft an OT the following year if Little doesn’t produce. 

[Forty-Eight]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To be fair, Mike Remmers should've won the MVP for the Broncos in SB50.

Now I can laugh to that

[Forty-Eight]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I keep waiting for the QB bubble to pop. At some point, teams have to start understanding that you can't give an average starter or even a pretty good starter the types of contracts that these types of players are getting in today's NFL. Everyone is just terrified of the unknown. They'd rather pay known mediocrity crazy money rather than roll the dice on potentially going backwards in an attempt to go forward.

Blame Chicago for giving Mike Glennon that big deal a while back 

[45catfan]

We trade Cam, get a FA QB and draft an OT in the first and a QB in the second.  The next few picks work on the DL. Spend the money we saved on Cam on a top-end FA LG. Revert back to a 4-3 where we already have the LBs in place.  Sign a mid-tier CB and demote Jackson.   The rest of the roster can be adjusted in the leading up to camp as normal.

[BurnHurnBurn]

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

All those high picks are being wasted when they're playing behind a trash DL.

Op has nothing to do with defense.  lets keep on topic.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We trade Cam, get a FA QB and draft an OT in the first and a QB in the second.  The next few picks work on the DL. Spend the money we saved on Cam on a top-end FA LG. Revert back to a 4-3 where we already have the LBs in place.  Sign a mid-tier CB and demote Jackson.   The rest of the roster can be adjusted in the leading up to camp as normal.

How'd the last top-end FA LG work out for the Jags?

Honestly, he might be available this offseason if we want him back.

[45catfan]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

How'd the last top-end FA LG work out for the Jags?

Honestly, he might be available this offseason if we want him back.

Horrible, but just like the draft, FAs tend to bust from time to time too.  Especially on their second one when they get paid, just like Norwell.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Horrible, but just like the draft, FAs tend to bust from time to time too.  Especially on their second one when they get paid, just like Norwell.

Add Short and Turner to that list too. I agreed with both re-signings, but hindsight being 20/20 and all, I wish we'd let someone else ink those contracts and took our 3rd round comp picks.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Add Short and Turner to that list too. I agreed with both re-signings, but hindsight being 20/20 and all, I wish we'd let someone else ink those contracts and took our 3rd round comp picks.

Considering both have been banged up this year and the season looking bleak from word go, maybe their competitive fire was dampened.  I'm interested to see how they both play next season.  Short's been out almost all season, but Trai has dealing with his injuries while plugging leaks on either side of him when in the line up.  I believe you are only as strong as your weakest link.  If this OL can shored up some next year I think Trai will be just fine.  KK too, if he can stay healthy.