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Value of RB's - how much worse would we have been without McCaffrey


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1 minute ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

When you have a RB having one of the best seasons for a RB ever and the team is still 5-11 that shows how important a good RB is ..

When you have a QB having one of the best seasons for a QB ever you win Super Bowls

Neither are necessarily true. Quit pulling stuff out of your ass and back up your attempt at a thought with facts and figures or don't bother posting a baseless opinion

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2 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

What do Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette, and Josh Jacobs have in common

0 playoff appearances this year

Don't draft RBs in the top 10, don't give them second contracts

No matter how good they are

One player doesn't make a team. Most teams picked those players high because they completely suck as an organization. A lot of good QBs picked high haven't won anything. A lot of running backs picked high have won. This thought is dumb and based on nothing. You can't win without a running game

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Just now, Daddy_Uncle said:

One player doesn't make a team. Most teams picked those players high because they completely suck as an organization. A lot of good QBs picked high haven't won anything. A lot of running backs picked high have won. This thought is dumb and based on nothing. You can't win without a running game

Good teams and good GMs don't draft running backs in the top of the 1st round

Name me one who does

 

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1 minute ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

One player doesn't make a team. Most teams picked those players high because they completely suck as an organization. A lot of good QBs picked high haven't won anything. A lot of running backs picked high have won. This thought is dumb and based on nothing. You can't win without a running game

The argument isn't that you can win without a running game .. it's that you can plug and play at RB .. any 4th round RB with the volume we gave McCaffrey would have numbers

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there’s value in having a good running game and there’s a lot of value in having a top tier running back on a rookie deal but you probably don’t want to be in the position where you have to run the offense entirely through your running back, as this year’s offense demonstrates. it was good for mccaffrey’s stat line though. too bad his value is erased when he’s made the top paid running back in the league. if we’re rebuilding we should probably trade him this offseason

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9 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

What do Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette, and Josh Jacobs have in common

0 playoff appearances this year

Don't draft RBs in the top 10, don't give them second contracts

No matter how good they are

That's a convenient list. The Rams went to the super bowl last year and the Cowboys have gone to the playoffs multiple times since drafting Elliot with a chance still to make it this year. The Raiders didn't add any high profile free agents and took Jacobs in the 1st who legitimized their running game and now they've got a chance to make the playoffs this year.

There's not a single position that has the impact of qb and you're not going to draft a qb every time you're in the top 10. We had a healthy Cam when we drafted CMC. Who could we have drafted that year who would have helped us win more games, qb aside?

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