Hindsight: We pay Star; let KK walk

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Forty-Eight said:

Top 5 or top 10. Which one exactly is it? Top 10, sure you could make a case for him due to his name. And he may very well be the #10. Top 5? You must be insane. And there are a bunch of insane Panthers fans nowadays. Even Corn Elder is a top 5 back up corner.

Which is more insane? Saying Star is better than KK, or KK is a top 5 DT?

*drops mic

[top dawg]

Panthers fans do seem to have gotten progressively dumber over the years. These new crying, whiny types who say idiotic and nonsensical things and start the same emo threads every other week need to be quelled.

[Peon Awesome]

Are there really 2 threads about how we should have kept Star because of a single play where he helped make a 4th down stop? 5 years and $50 million? Remember when McCoy made the 4th down stop against New Orleans at the goal line towards the end of the first half? How many threads got started saying he was the signing of the year and we should extend him for 5 years? Star was a good piece but he's not worth 5 years, $50 million. And just about everyone outside of these boards will tell you that.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

You keep both. 

I honestly think Star didn't want to be resigned. He was leaving no matter what. 

[Forty-Eight]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Which is more insane? Saying Star is better than KK, or KK is a top 5 DT?

*drops mic

Saying KK is a top 5 bc it’s fact that Star is better than KK. You are definitely insane. Why am I even wasting my time 

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Watching this Bills game ...

Star's value is not quantifiable .. I think had we kept Star, it wouldn't of been hard to find a DT opposite that could do what Short was doing

Star doesn't get pushed backward and that obviously helps everybody else on the line

Lol...at the time it was right call

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

Saying KK is a top 5 bc it’s fact that Star is better than KK. You are definitely insane. Why am I even wasting my time 

I ask myself the same about you.

Show me one reputable analytics site or analyst that ranks Star better than KK. Look all week look long. Save yourself the trouble, unless you really enjoy wasting your time as opposed to other Huddlers'.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

8 hours ago, top dawg said:

Panthers fans do seem to have gotten progressively dumber over the years. These new crying, whiny types who say idiotic and nonsensical things and start the same emo threads every other week need to be quelled.

lol Forty-Eight is like the millionth alt account of one of the most prolific shitposters in the history of this site.  Some of them have been doing this for a long, long time.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

The whole "..Star didn't want to be here.." has no credibility yet is toted around here like it is fact ..

Had he went to a West Coast team - that argument holds a little more weight .. but he went to the Bills

[Matt62881]

13 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Watching this Bills game ...

Star's value is not quantifiable .. I think had we kept Star, it wouldn't of been hard to find a DT opposite that could do what Short was doing

Star doesn't get pushed backward and that obviously helps everybody else on the line

Paying both would have been the way to go if he wanted to be here and wasn't offered a massive contract for a 0,1 tech. You dont just find guys like short either, hes alot better then most on here give credit for against the run.

[Matt62881]

11 hours ago, Udogg said:

I don't know.  To me it looked like our line play dropped significantly once KK got hurt.  So I'm not sure I'm all on the Short sucks bandwagon..but whatever....

Also in the same vain people are talking about how stats don't mean everything when comparing Start to KK but in the same breath are talking about how KK sucks because he isn't getting the stats.. 

This 100, short began doing more of the dirty work after star left, this is why him and McCoy looked so good it was like having star and short back. Unfortunately mccoy is only a 3 tech and Poe is a shell of what he was. Poe was still better at 1 tech then anything we had as we saw the play drop significantly again when he went on IR.w

[Forty-Eight]

8 hours ago, top dawg said:

I ask myself the same about you.

Show me one reputable analytics site or analyst that ranks Star better than KK. Look all week look long. Save yourself the trouble, unless you really enjoy wasting your time as opposed to other Huddlers'.

KK has one good season and that was bc he lived off Star getting doubled. What the hell is he doing now? Fat lazy fugger

[Matt62881]

49 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

KK has one good season and that was bc he lived off Star getting doubled. What the hell is he doing now? Fat lazy fugger

I think all your look at is stats, if KK had stayed healthy McCoy would have had a 10 sack season because KK where he doesn't do it quite as good does stars job pretty damn good. After Star left KK took on the dirty work there for the drop in stats. Even if not taking double teams his IQ of taking on run schemes is high, even hitting the right olineman and knocking him out of his blocking scheme can cause the HB to get tackled.

[Matt62881]

2 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

I think all your look at is stats, if KK had stayed healthy McCoy would have had a 10 sack season because KK where he doesn't do it quite as good does stars job pretty damn good. After Star left KK took on the dirty work there for the drop in stats. Even if not taking double teams his IQ of taking on run schemes is high, even hitting the right olineman and knocking him out of his blocking scheme can cause the HB to get tackled.

This is why HBs have been devalued because outside a select few like CMC it's all about the oline performance. See Leveon Bell to Conner...no drop off because the Steelers line did their job.