Trent Williams, back to the drawing board

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I'm not arguing that the Redskins did him wrong, I'm just saying let's stay out of that situation. We've got a team to rebuild, it might not be the time to bring a guy in to rehab from another team. Especially at the high dollars he will want. Let someone else roll the dice on that high chip count.

I think that just depends on how you want to build. Getting him here and possibly convincing him to play the remainder of his contract out(a HUGE if) could be a great gamble on a potential franchise LT. Make no mistake, he was arguably the top LT in the NFL. It would be a huge boost to finally lock that position down.

If not, and he wants a new contract immediately, it is a much riskier proposition. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that just depends on how you want to build. Getting him here and possibly convincing him to play the remainder of his contract out(a HUGE if) could be a great gamble on a potential franchise LT. Make no mistake, he was arguably the top LT in the NFL. It would be a huge boost to finally lock that position down.

If not, and he wants a new contract immediately, it is a much riskier proposition. 

I could look at it a couple of ways...

You can say "Hey it worked with Andrew Whitworth, so why don't we try it?"

Of course, what all too frequently happens when you try something that worked for somebody else is that it doesn't work the same for you.

[Khyber53]

45 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that just depends on how you want to build. Getting him here and possibly convincing him to play the remainder of his contract out(a HUGE if) could be a great gamble on a potential franchise LT. Make no mistake, he was arguably the top LT in the NFL. It would be a huge boost to finally lock that position down.

If not, and he wants a new contract immediately, it is a much riskier proposition. 

I'm going to say it again: a guy who was disgruntled with his last team, has had injuries, is 32 years old, hasn't played a meaningful snap of football in over a calendar year and has a high price tag is just not the guy a young rebuilding team needs.

The risks are just soooo outweighing any rewards.

[MHS831]

19 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I'm going to say it again: a guy who was disgruntled with his last team, has had injuries, is 32 years old, hasn't played a meaningful snap of football in over a calendar year and has a high price tag is just not the guy a young rebuilding team needs.

The risks are just soooo outweighing any rewards.

Sean Gilbert II.

They want to pay us back for Josh Norman---careful Marty!!!

[Basbear]

14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Since when did 32 years old become over the hill for an elite OT??

Its not, just at that age you can have a sudden change in talent within days/weeks. Its the main reason why everyone wants ultra fast/strong players cause if they lose some due to age or injury, they are still fast/strong.

People always bring up Whitworth, I talked to one of consumers who lives and dies Bengal football for his honest opinion. He told me during the week Whitworth never practiced due to his knees and back (mainly knees). He only went to the friday walk-though part. Hes just the rare one thats able to do that at his age. Peters is 38 too, but he at least practices. I wanted no part of him cause I didnt foresee that lasting, but somehow it did.   

Plus Ive heard a couple of the smartest strength people say the strongest years of a mans career are 26-32. Most of the records are held by men in that age, so it has that going for it. Football takes lots of wear and tear, thats why that number is around 30 for most of them. It takes a HOF-level player to continue playing elite in their 30s.  If you take away ST players the panthers oldest players are KK, Cam, and Paradis....... AND they are the only players at the age of 30 on the team. 

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I could look at it a couple of ways...

You can say "Hey it worked with Andrew Whitworth, so why don't we try it?"

Of course, what all too frequently happens when you try something that worked for somebody else is that it doesn't work the same for you.

Whitworth was quite a bit older than Williams at the time. Elite LT's seem to have some pretty good shelf life. If he lasts as long as guys like Whitworth and Peter's, he would probably last the rest of Cam's career(assuming the best and Cam remains our franchise QB).