Saints used a draft pick to spite the Panthers

[beo]

2 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

If you didn’t care then you wouldn’t be bickering back and forth with me, now would you? LOLOL. Nah I’m only teasing, but hey we’re simply passing time talking about something we’re both passionate about and hoping we get to watch again in a few months. We all miss football.

And while you didn’t explicitly say “significant”, bringing it up implies that notion and/or there was malice involved when it only occurred based on Newton’s actions. I simply picked apart the “headshot” claim as I’ve had multiple other times here (including the guy I mentioned that claimed Newton was intentionally kicked in the eye, LOLOLOL; that one still kills me that he actually typed that) since I had all the information handy without need to look it up.
 

As for the cheering aspect, trying to accurately judge what the crowd is doing through a broadcast is futile exercise. The sound coming through the TV is passed through so many filters, volume faders, and is also heavily dependent on microphone placement in the stadium and the audio engineer running the show. If one small pocket of fans that are all drunk af are seated near a hot mic, it’ll make it appear as though the entire stadium was cheering during the injury until the producer has them drop the volume. After nearly every game, we have threads on our own boards from fans that watched on TV chastising other posters that were in attendance and saying “wHaT ThE HeLL iS WrOnG WiTh ThE cRoWd, WhY WeReN’t yOu gUyS LoUd tOdAy??” Unless you were there, you just don’t know for sure. I haven’t seen one Panthers fan that was there (and can prove they were) upset about our fans cheering while Newton was down.

As for the rest of your other post you said I disregarded, the only other thing you mentioned was the intentional grounding call. I can admit it was a bit ticky-tack, but Newton wasn’t clearly outside the tackle box (of which the umpire and the referee are standing at the edges of) and y’all still had two shots at the end zone afterward.

I understand the sour taste, but it needs to be directed at y’all coaching staff who obviously didn’t learn anything from our first two games that year and came back to New Orleans with the same gameplan for a third time like it was magically going to work after failing spectacularly the first two times.

Maybe Payton looked into his crystal ball and it foretold of Brady’s successes at LSU that would ultimately result in him being hired by a team that has gone 6-18 over their last 24 games. Maybe that’s the “mistake” he means?
 

fair enough regarding the crowd noise, and i'll be the first one to admit that the hit itself was obviously an accident, similar to how the von miller hit in week 1 of 2016 was. didn't intend for it to come off as if i was trying to say it was a dirty hit, not all helmet hits cam took were nessicarily dirty (some sure as fug were though, like the darian stewart hits in 2016). regarding our coaching staff, i agree considering we hadn't done well against yall all year, however we were closer into the wildcard game than we were in those first two games that season, and we almost won that despite cam throwing to practice teamers (the kaelin clay drop in the endzone in particular comes to my mind as a missed oppourtunity).

can't remember the exact specifics, but we played much better in the wildcard in a hostile enviroment than we had beforehand, so obviously something was different regarding our gameplan. if it wasn't.. then my opinion of ron would probably take even  more of a nosedive than it already has. another thing regarding the crowd noise, i've only ever been to one NFL game (which was at this point 7 years ago) so the things you just mentioned regarding hearing the crowd through all of the fitlers/mics/ the broadcast itself being near impossible are things i didn't know prior to reading this post (i knew there was a form of audio engineering on tv broadcasts, just not how it functioned or what it did when pertaining to crowd noise). also, about redirecting the sour taste at our staff, trust me on this; it's been done near endlessly since 2018. he should've been gone after 2018, 2019 was absolutely pathetic. it's the one season i actually quit watching half way through.

[Iron Saint]

On 5/4/2020 at 9:34 PM, beo said:

fair enough regarding the crowd noise, and i'll be the first one to admit that the hit itself was obviously an accident, similar to how the von miller hit in week 1 of 2016 was. didn't intend for it to come off as if i was trying to say it was a dirty hit, not all helmet hits cam took were nessicarily dirty (some sure as fug were though, like the darian stewart hits in 2016). regarding our coaching staff, i agree considering we hadn't done well against yall all year, however we were closer into the wildcard game than we were in those first two games that season, and we almost won that despite cam throwing to practice teamers (the kaelin clay drop in the endzone in particular comes to my mind as a missed oppourtunity).

can't remember the exact specifics, but we played much better in the wildcard in a hostile enviroment than we had beforehand, so obviously something was different regarding our gameplan. if it wasn't.. then my opinion of ron would probably take even  more of a nosedive than it already has. another thing regarding the crowd noise, i've only ever been to one NFL game (which was at this point 7 years ago) so the things you just mentioned regarding hearing the crowd through all of the fitlers/mics/ the broadcast itself being near impossible are things i didn't know prior to reading this post (i knew there was a form of audio engineering on tv broadcasts, just not how it functioned or what it did when pertaining to crowd noise). also, about redirecting the sour taste at our staff, trust me on this; it's been done near endlessly since 2018. he should've been gone after 2018, 2019 was absolutely pathetic. it's the one season i actually quit watching half way through.

I feel you. Y’all definitely did put up a better fight each time y’all played us, I can admit that. I just felt that Rivera’s coaching philosophies was another thing that was likely holding y’all back. He’s not a bad coach by any means, just that similar to the Cowboys with Jason Garrett, y’all had probably reached the maximum potential possible with him on the sidelines and it was in the best interest of y’all organization to begin to look elsewhere.

And yeah, a lot of the audio stuff has mostly to do various factors with the stadium from the construction to the way they mic it to get the sounds we hear on the broadcasts. I can only speak about the Superdome but the way they mic the crowd here is they have these microphones that they mount on a telescoping mic stands and that are raised into the air about 4-5 feet above the crowd’s heads (when standing). They’re usually placed around the 35 yard line and sometimes there are only 2 (one on each sideline and one on each half the field) but for some games like the NFC Championship I’ve seen at least 4 mounted how I described (at both 35’s and on both sidelines) and possibly even more I didn’t see.

I’ve been planning on trying to make a few road games myself so hopefully one year. Hope you get to make some more NFL games yourself, friend. Would you happen to live abroad?

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[beo]

3 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

I feel you. Y’all definitely did put up a better fight each time y’all played us, I can admit that. I just felt that Rivera’s coaching philosophies was another thing that was likely holding y’all back. He’s not a bad coach by any means, just that similar to the Cowboys with Jason Garrett, y’all had probably reached the maximum potential possible with him on the sidelines and it was in the best interest of y’all organization to begin to look elsewhere.

And yeah, a lot of the audio stuff has mostly to do various factors with the stadium from the construction to the way they mic it to get the sounds we hear on the broadcasts. I can only speak about the Superdome but the way they mic the crowd here is they have these microphones that they mount on a telescoping mic stands and that are raised into the air about 4-5 feet above the crowd’s heads (when standing). They’re usually placed around the 35 yard line and sometimes there are only 2 (one on each sideline and one on each half the field) but for some games like the NFC Championship I’ve seen at least 4 mounted how I described (at both 35’s and on both sidelines) and possibly even more I didn’t see.

I’ve been planning on trying to make a few road games myself so hopefully one year. Hope you get to make some more NFL games yourself, friend. Would you happen to live abroad?

i feel like rivera over the years just began to fall out of touch with the game as it progressed, for a while he was a genuinely good coach but i'd say the kinks in the armor really began to show in 2017 and got worse every year as the years went by. i thought he shouldve been gone after 2018, but 19 was just.. damn. i don't see where the idea he is still a good coach stems from, from 2012-2015? yeah he was probably pretty good, but since then it's been a steady downhill slope.

i just don't see how you can watch the 2019 panthers and claim rivera is a good coach (which i've seen redskins fans and others doing, suprisingly) i'd say rivera was better than garrett at his best though. that's cool regarding the audio stuff, had little to no idea as to how crowd noise works with broadcasts and sound engineering and whatnot. knowing this, i'll take crowd noise from broadcasts with a grain of salt moving forward.

i unfortunately don't live abroad, i live in the coastal parts of NC which means im  far away from charlotte (im closer to  the NC-VA border than i am to charlotte lol) which is why i haven't really been to any games. it's a good 5 hour drive just to get there. i do intend on trying to go to more games in the near future as well, as the one time i did go i had a pretty good time. the only one i went to was a  38-0 route of the giants in 2013. maybe it's good karma?