Panthers alumni answer questions about Cam Newton

[RASTAN66]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

His comments have no merit towards tepper like I stated before cause he’s not responsible for that staffs shortcomings 

Sure they do, in fact Tolbert's comments are a direct shot at Tepper (and Hurney). 

Tepper was owner and along with Hurney they were the top-2 executives during the 2nd round of shoulder issues (2018/2019) and the entire foot saga (2019/2020). 

In a radio interview today Hurney was put into a position where he had to defend his and Tepper's  medical staff (and broader organization)....

....you think Hurndog & Tepper are happy about that?

Tolbert has put himself squarely on the persona non grata list and while I doubt htey'd go to the lengths of denying him entry to Bank of America stadium if Mike wants to see a game he's going to have to buy his ticket and sit in the stands.

 

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15 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Lol. NEVER over 5k yards. I like the emphasis on the thing that has happened only 12 times in NFL history and only 9 QB's have achieved.

Well my point was Ryan did it twice.... so... it was asked to compare right? But then again Cam is the best athlete, QB ever so he should have done it at least 3 times right?

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4 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Well my point was Ryan did it twice.... so... it was asked to compare right? But then again Cam is the best athlete, QB ever so he should have done it at least 3 times right?

Yeah, Matt Ryan has never thrown for over 5k yards. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm

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9 hours ago, Icege said:

Matt Ryan's passing attempts those years: 566, 615, 651, 628, 614, 534, 529, 608, 616. He has never had over 5k yards in a single season unless you're trying to fluff his numbers with postseason stats as well. The highest was 2018 when he threw for 4924. His first two seasons were the only ones he wasn't asked to throw it over 500 times. He has also ALWAYS had top tier weapons.

Cam Newton has had only two seasons where he had more than 500 passing attempts. The first, his rookie season, he broke 4k. The other was 3.5k, and that was the season he was riddled with injuries. Cam was always the top tier weapon.

You are repeatedly fuging up this challenge.  At what point are you willing to admit that you don't even have the facts straight?

Ryan has only had X amount rushing attempts. He didnt run for more because he is brittle and slow. See the Saints DLineman smashed him from last year. Therefore he should be excused for his poor rushing stats. He's rarely had a good rushing Olineman.  See how that works?

 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, Matt Ryan has never thrown for over 5k yards. 

Did I say that? No! The ask was for TOTAL yards. I provided total yards. Or do you want me to go back and remove rushing yards for both Cam and Ryan and see the comparison. We both know how that would work out. 

 

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7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

NEVER!!!

A good portion of this "fan base" never wanted Cam, convinced themselves of his "fake smile" before he was drafted, and begrudgingly enjoyed the success we had on the field with him. Now that he's gone, they wish to try to rewrite history and pretend he was never a good QB anyway, was the direct cause of every loss, and the only reason we won any games was completely unrelated to the QB position. 

I never made a personal comment about Cam and defended him against personal attacks. Again as I said before I have never commented on his smile his pay, his wife, dress etc. IDC. Check. 
I never said he wasnt a good QB. I said he was an average passer. His mechanics and stats back my claim. Check.
I never said he was a direct cause of a loss. I only pointed out he has never had back to back winning seasons. Fact.

 

Clearly you are all in your feelings and seeing things that have never happened.

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14 minutes ago, Bytes said:

I never made a personal comment about Cam and defended him against personal attacks. Again as I said before I have never commented on his smile his pay, his wife, dress etc. IDC. Check. 
I never said he wasnt a good QB. I said he was an average passer. His mechanics and stats back my claim. Check.
I never said he was a direct cause of a loss. I only pointed out he has never had back to back winning seasons. Fact.

 

Clearly you are all in your feelings and seeing things that have never happened.

I found it interesting you felt the need to bring up a lot of off-field things about Cam in his "defense" that literally no one else had brought up for you to need to defend. Then you proceeded to take shots at him for posting pics of his and on Instagram. Yeah man, I think you're very genuine in your defense.

The Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons, period.

 

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32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I found it interesting you felt the need to bring up a lot of off-field things about Cam in his "defense" that literally no one else had brought up for you to need to defend. Then you proceeded to take shots at him for posting pics of his and on Instagram. Yeah man, I think you're very genuine in your defense.

The Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons, period.

 

I find it interesting you had to bring up his smile, isnt that an  off-field thing? And that literally no one else bought up. Then you continue to take shots at anyone who brings facts to the table while you continue to deflect. And yeah back to back winning seasons is a fact. PERIOD.

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14 minutes ago, Bytes said:

And yeah back to back winning seasons is a fact. PERIOD.

So Thomas Davis is a scrub too because he never had back to back winning seasons as a Panther?

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9 minutes ago, Icege said:

So Thomas Davis is a scrub too because he never had back to back winning seasons as a Panther?

Hmmmm...scrub....dont remember saying anything remotely close to that. So you in your cam feelings too?

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13 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Hmmmm...scrub....dont remember saying anything remotely close to that. So you in your cam feelings too?

I'm just trying to make sure your consistent that players are what their record says they are.

How about Luke Kuechly?

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11 minutes ago, Icege said:

I'm just trying to make sure your consistent that players are what their record says they are.

How about Luke Kuechly?

Why do you think that I need to show you that I am consistent? Are you the thought police? Do you do this with everyone?

How about Lester Towns?

 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, Matt Ryan has never thrown for over 5k yards. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm

Good catch.  They must be including playoffs. 

He was over 4,900 regular season yards twice and about 4,700yds another time.

I looked at the link you provided and found it notable that Ryan has thrown for over 4,000yds the last 9 seasons on a row, pretty unreal.   

Cam clipped 4,000yds by 51yds in his rookie season, and that was it.

Yea yeah, I know, he ran it a lot, etc...

...that's just what jumped out when I looked at the regular season passing totals. 

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18 minutes ago, bull123 said:

This forum represents around 1% of the way Panthers fans in general really are

I'd put it at about 2 basis-points.