Panthers alumni answer questions about Cam Newton

[Jaxel]

5 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why is still being debated ? It’s been proven that even with his deficiencies as a passer he still accomplished as much if not more that Matt Ryan, your  prime example, and more or the same as his peers who are not named Tom Brady or Aaron rodgers.  

Right, Cam has been a good enough passer to be elite with his added running abilities, however as age creeps in and injuries pile up it is imperative that the ability to pass be the strength of his game. Cam has said himself that he would not change his game because it wasn't who he is, which is fine, but in every profession there comes a point where you have to be willing to go out of your comfort zone to succeed.

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51 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why is still being debated ? It’s been proven that even with his deficiencies as a passer he still accomplished as much if not more that Matt Ryan, your  prime example, and more or the same as his peers who are not named Tom Brady or Aaron rodgers.  

in what has he accomplished as much if not more than matt ryan based on individual data. Please be specific and state your case with data. 

[Bytes]

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

Fully agree here, regardless he will play again at some point and it will be important that he show strength in the passing game going forward. Vick was able to improve his passing game, so I have no doubt Cam will too. His shoulder just needs to hold up. In a way, being out the last couple years might have benefited him and we may see an entirely different type of QB once Cam starts again. He certainly is motivated.

Cant disagree with any of that. But it remains to be seen. And Vick didnt have the injury history Cam does.

[MasterAwesome]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You certainly implied you didn't have one in your temper tantrum. You've certainly displayed the lack of logical consistency and even very basic grammatical abilities that I'd expect out of a HS graduate. You don't realize that with each post you tell on yourself more and more. Just stop while you're behind. All you had to say a long time ago was that "Hey, I just don't like Cam" and I wouldn't have flogged the hell out of you and embarrassed you but this is evidently what you wanted.

You're both acting extremely childish...the difference being that mods *should* generally be held to a higher standard.  This shitshow is like watching Justin Bieber argue with some rando in his subtweets.  I mean y'all actually argued across multiple posts about a sub-2.0 difference in average passing yardage...jesus.

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4 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

You're both acting extremely childish...the difference being that mods *should* generally be held to a higher standard.  This shitshow is like watching Justin Bieber argue with some rando in his subtweets.  I mean y'all actually argued across multiple posts about a sub-2.0 difference in average passing yardage...jesus.

Yep.

[Cpt slay a ho]

14 minutes ago, Bytes said:

in what has he accomplished as much if not more than matt ryan based on individual data. Please be specific and state your case with data. 

Ok I see what this is now, you don’t like data or facts that disprove your skewed opinion on cam as a passer. 

He has a higher win percentage, mvp just like Ryan and he did it before Ryan btw, has won his division 3 times in a row, a feat that not only wasn’t even done twice let alone 3 times, nfl leader in rush td, 3rd in rushing yards By a qb all time, same amount of all pro selections, I mean I can go all day. 

for a guy who’s so much better passing, he’s not accomplished more than cam newton, oh and  there’s not been a season cam has played All 16 games and led us to 4-12 and a top 5 pick, ya boy Ryan accomplished that as well 

 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Bytes said:

And for you "I dont like facts"

Lol. Right. Opinions are facts now. 

 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Cpt slay a ho said:

Ok I see what this is now, you don’t like data or facts that disprove your skewed opinion on cam as a passer. 

He has a higher win percentage, mvp just like Ryan and he did it before Ryan btw, has won his division 3 times in a row, a feat that not only wasn’t even done twice let alone 3 times, nfl leader in rush td, 3rd in rushing yards By a qb all time, same amount of all pro selections, I mean I can go all day. 

for a guy who’s so much better passing, he’s not accomplished more than cam newton, oh and  there’s not been a season cam has played All 16 games and led us to 4-12 and a top 5 pick, ya boy Ryan accomplished that as well 

 

He has acres of strawmen arguments across this thread. It's impressive at some level.

[Cpt slay a ho]

47 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Cant disagree with any of that. But it remains to be seen. And Vick didnt have the injury history Cam does.

This is trolling or you haven’t stated watching football until recently, Vick was in and out of lineups because he’d tried taking on hits like he’s was a rb.

[Cpt slay a ho]

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

Right, Cam has been a good enough passer to be elite with his added running abilities, however as age creeps in and injuries pile up it is imperative that the ability to pass be the strength of his game. Cam has said himself that he would not change his game because it wasn't who he is, which is fine, but in every profession there comes a point where you have to be willing to go out of your comfort zone to succeed.

I agree, I think 2018 showed he was serious about transitioning fully into a pocket passer, I’d still incorporate some running to keep defenses on there toes but not as much as previous seasons, a change in throwing motions and footwork in 2018 showed that commitment. 

right now he’s just in a rock and hard place with the freak foot injury, shoulder concerns and epidemic. Patience is the key now for him 
 

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4 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Ok I see what this is now, you don’t like data or facts that disprove your skewed opinion on cam as a passer. 

He has a higher win percentage, mvp just like Ryan and he did it before Ryan btw, has won his division 3 times in a row, a feat that not only wasn’t even done twice let alone 3 times, nfl leader in rush td, 3rd in rushing yards By a qb all time, same amount of all pro selections, I mean I can go all day. 

for a guy who’s so much better passing, he’s not accomplished more than cam newton, oh and  there’s not been a season cam has played All 16 games and led us to 4-12 and a top 5 pick, ya boy Ryan accomplished that as well 

 

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

6 minutes ago, Bytes said:

 

199 games to 131.....what are we doing here lol 

[Bytes]

34 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Ok I see what this is now, you don’t like data or facts that disprove your skewed opinion on cam as a passer. 

He has a higher win percentage, mvp just like Ryan and he did it before Ryan btw, has won his division 3 times in a row, a feat that not only wasn’t even done twice let alone 3 times, nfl leader in rush td, 3rd in rushing yards By a qb all time, same amount of all pro selections, I mean I can go all day. 

for a guy who’s so much better passing, he’s not accomplished more than cam newton, oh and  there’s not been a season cam has played All 16 games and led us to 4-12 and a top 5 pick, ya boy Ryan accomplished that as well 

 

You are making stuff up. How many back to back winning seasons does he have? And I ask you what INDIVIDUAL stats Cam has (besides rushing, which is why he is broken down) that Cam has better than Ryan. For me, again, I like my QBs to be better at passing than running. You know like I like my doctors to be better at making assessments than writing prescriptions. Well maybe thats a bit too complicated for you. Matt Ryan's individual stats are waaay better than Cam's, so are Bree's, So are Wilson's, So are fill in the blank with any top 15 passing QB. 

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3 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

199 games to 131.....what are we doing here lol 

The statement was made Cam had a better winning percentage? Are you moving the goal post again? Keep up.