Phil Snow's Defense

[panthers55]

Don't get me wrong. I think Snow will improve over time and may be a great coordinator one day. It wasn't fair to ask him to try and whip this defense into a great unit with no off-season or preseason. So I don't think you can make any great judgments off of this year. I want to make that clear.

But my goodness I thought Washington was bad and really hoped Snow would be aggressive and that Teppers desire for a blitzburg type defense would help us play aggressively. In McDermotts first year we got burned a lot but at least the players were aggressive and we blitzed frequently although we didn't get there that much. But you could see the potential. When is a prevent defense effective except to prevent you from stopping anyone or winning. The lack of adjustments is dismaying on both sides of the ball.

[PantherPhann89]

22 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Don't get me wrong. I think Snow will improve over time and may be a great coordinator one day. It wasn't fair to ask him to try and whip this defense into a great unit with no off-season or preseason. So I don't think you can make any great judgments off of this year. I want to make that clear.

But my goodness I thought Washington was bad and really hoped Snow would be aggressive and that Teppers desire for a blitzburg type defense would help us play aggressively. In McDermotts first year we got burned a lot but at least the players were aggressive and we blitzed frequently although we didn't get there that much. But you could see the potential. When is a prevent defense effective except to prevent you from stopping anyone or winning. The lack of adjustments is dismaying on both sides of the ball.

I agree, it was a hard sale for Snow to come through but I don't believe we're that far off and I'm not in favor of getting rid of Snow as of right now. I do think we'd be a lot better with a few adjustments. Tighter zone coverages with player assignments, better tackling, better blitz alignments, etc.

 

[Varking]

Phil Snow fired yet?

[LinvilleGorge]

Well, I would've lost everything I own and everything I could borrow on credit if someone would've offered me the chance yesterday to bet on whether or not the Panthers would pitch a shutout this season. LOL!

[PantherPhann89]

17 minutes ago, Varking said:

Phil Snow fired yet?

Wow, really... First off, I never called for or insinuated that he should be fired. I did say that our defensive issues, prior to this game, was on coaching and not players. Although many Huddlers said our defense was bad because we have so many players that were @$÷_. No, I'm not repeating it. I didn't agree with it then and I don't now. Our issues against the Lions were corrected and Phil Snow deserves a pat on the back...

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Wow, really... First off, I never called for or insinuated that he should be fired. I did say that our defensive issues, prior to this game, was on coaching and not players. Although many Huddlers said our defense was bad because we have so many players that were @$÷_. No, I'm not repeating it. I didn't agree with it then and I don't now. Our issues against the Lions were corrected and Phil Snow deserves a pat on the back...

Plus no 3 man rush today and actually mixing up rush packages. That did wonders. Snow bought himself a little leeway but I'm still of the opinion we need to get a real NFL DC in here next year.

[PantherPhann89]

42 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Plus no 3 man rush today and actually mixing up rush packages. That did wonders. Snow bought himself a little leeway but I'm still of the opinion we need to get a real NFL DC in here next year.

Yeah he brought a great game plan today. Our defensive players did less reacting to plays today. 

[Frank9999]

Surprise that Thai whitehead didn’t play? 

[Frank9999]

Tahir *

[Harbingers]

Just now, PantherPhann89 said:

Yeah he brought a great game plan today. Our defensive players dud less reacting to plays today. 

When I say bring in a NFL DC too I don't mean get rid of Snow, obviously Rhule isn't going to get rid of Snow. Just move him to Special Assistant to the Head Coach and let someone else call the defense. Unless he calls games like today consistently. 

[PantherPhann89]

37 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

When I say bring in a NFL DC too I don't mean get rid of Snow, obviously Rhule isn't going to get rid of Snow. Just move him to Special Assistant to the Head Coach and let someone else call the defense. Unless he calls games like today consistently. 

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[Mr. Scot]

39 minutes ago, Frank9999 said:

Surprise that Thai whitehead didn’t play? 

Surprised it took this long to bench him.

[panthers55]

This is exactly what I have been preaching for weeks.  Everyone said it was personnel and there was nothing Snow could do. I said we weren't playing good matchup zone and weren't disguising our blitzes. Then I said we should put more guys on the line and drop or rush them without telegraphing what they are doing.  Magically we do the exact things I said we should and suddenly we pitch a shut out. I think Shaq lit into them and maybe bitched to Snow about the scheme. In any case it seems like 2 different defenses even accounting for this being Detroit. It proves what I said all along. It was scheme more than personnel. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

This is exactly what I have been preaching for weeks.  Everyone said it was personnel and there was nothing Snow could do. I said we weren't playing good matchup zone and weren't disguising our blitzes. Then I said we should put more guys on the line and drop or rush them without telegraphing what they are doing.  Magically we do the exact things I said we should and suddenly we pitch a shut out. I think Shaq lit into them and maybe bitched to Snow about the scheme. In any case it seems like 2 different defenses even accounting for this being Detroit. It proves what I said all along. It was scheme more than personnel. 

Oh, I'd still say it was personnel today.

Specifically, the personnel that coach and play for Detroit...