Could the top of the draft be flipped?

[Varking]

Just now, top dawg said:

Other than being an inexperienced college QB that needs to be coached up, like all of them,  Lance's biggest "flaw" is his level of competition! Anyone paying attention knows that.

It’s his lack of passing, period. How many times has he even passed for 200 yards in a game? 200... 

Hes a runner. He’s D2 Jordan Love. 

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Had Lance lit it up like expected in his one and only game he wouldn't have had a giant bucket of ice water dumped on his hype train. It isn't just because Wilson has played well, it's also that Lance didn't play particularly well in his one and only appearance.

His one game left something to be desired, but mostly for dudes on a message board. Serious NFL types aren't artificially blowing it out of proportion just to support their guy, they're doing serious evaluation that has yet to be completed. That's the skinny!

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, top dawg said:

His one game left something to be desired, but mostly for dudes on a message board. Serious NFL types aren't artificially blowing it out of proportion just to support their guy, they're doing serious evaluation that had yet to be completed. That's the skinny!

Okay, dude on a message board. The skinny seems to be that you think your opinion is fact. Hell, there is no "fact" in prospect evaluation other than the measurements and times that come out of the Combine which are of highly debatable importance.

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Varking said:

It’s his lack of passing, period. How many times has he even passed for 200 yards in a game? 200... 

Hes a runner. He’s D2 Jordan Love. 

I've read the reports that I could read. You'd better look at my last response to LG!

[Varking]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

I've read the reports that I could read. You'd better look at my last response to LG!

I read all the responses to this thread. Almost all reports have Wilson over Lance. Even by “serious nfl types”. We all read the same reports as you. Unless you have some inside information in the NFL, which clearly you don’t, you’ve been recently upset over Wilson being viewed as a better prospect. Too many people fall in love with ceiling but most players never reach theirs. Wilson has a much higher floor and his ceiling isn’t far off. 

[Moo Daeng]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

That Wilson is being talked about more than Lance right now because he played and Lance didn't. Simple as that!

That and he played a lot better against a higher level of competition than Lance ever has. Lance wasn't tasked with much as a passer. 

[top dawg]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Okay, dude on a message board. The skinny seems to be that you think your opinion is fact. Hell, there is no "fact" in prospect evaluation other than the measurements and times that come out of the Combine which are of highly debatable importance.

I haven't stated one single thing as fact. I'll leave that to you!

I've stated similar things about the Combine, so you're preaching to the choir.  The fact is, you're not in any scout's, coach's or exec's mind in regards to Lance, Wilson or any other prospect. Moreover, they have interviews, pro days and individual workouts for a reason. None of which have happened. So, I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told Varking, "Slow your roll!"

[top dawg]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

That and he played a lot better against a higher level of competition than Lance ever has. Lance wasn't tasked with much as a passer. 

He just threw for approximately 2800 yards is all.

Don't confuse "hasn't thrown" with "can't throw!'

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I haven't stated one single thing as fact. I'll leave that to you!

I've stated similar things about the Combine, so you're preaching to the choir.  The fact is, you're not in any scout's, coach's or exec's mind in regards to Lance, Wilson or any other prospect. Moreover, they have interviews, pro days and individual workouts for a reason. None of which have happened. So, I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told Varking, "Slow your roll!"

You are wording every post you make as if you're staying facts while hurling advice toward others that you should be heeding yourself. No one else in this thread is definitively stumping for a guy like you are for Lance.

[Varking]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I haven't stated one single thing as fact. I'll leave that to you!

I've stated similar things about the Combine, so you're preaching to the choir.  The fact is, you're not in any scout's, coach's or exec's mind in regards to Lance, Wilson or any other prospect. Moreover, they have interviews, pro days and individual workouts for a reason. None of which have happened. So, I'm going to tell you the same thing that I told Varking, "Slow your roll!"

You have been ultra sensitive today. Everything alright? 

[top dawg]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

You are wording every post you make as if you're staying facts while hurling advice toward others that you should be heeding yourself. No one else in this thread is definitely stumping for a guy like you are for Lance.

You've been "stumping"for Wilson all over this forum. I simply said that all you guys short selling Lance are going to rue the day that you did. That ain't got poo to do with the Panthers or wherever he goes. That's what I said, and I'm not backing down. 

It's you guys that have tried to make it about something else. 

I know that you guys can read!

 

[Varking]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

He just threw for approximately 2800 yards is all.

Don't confuse "hasn't thrown" with "can't throw!'

2786 yards / 16 games is just 175ish passing yards a game. That would be good enough for better than coming back from horrific injury Tua and better than super banged up and done Cam Newton. He’d be below everyone else. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

You've been "stumping"for Wilson all over this forum. I simply said that all you guys short selling Lance are going to rue the day that you did. That ain't got poo to do with the Panthers or wherever he goes. That's what I said, and I'm not backing down. 

It's you guys that have tried to make it about something else. 

I know that you guys can read!

 

Gotcha. Delusional butthurt seems to be your track today. 

[Varking]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You've been "stumping"for Wilson all over this forum. I simply said that all you guys short selling Lance are going to rue the day that you did. That ain't got poo to do with the Panthers or wherever he goes. That's what I said, and I'm not backing down. 

It's you guys that have tried to make it about something else. 

I know that you guys can read!

 

You said in one sentence only LG and I are trying to state facts, and you aren’t, but you twice now have said that we are going to rue the day that we sold Lance short. You are trying to make that into a fact. I’ve also been far from a stumper for Wilson.