HOF QB’s equals Super Bowls?

[JawnyBlaze]

1 hour ago, weyco2000 said:

Brady’s 7 as a sixth rounder sorta makes his point 

 

 

 

That’s entirely irrelevant to the point. The post had nothing to do with draft position. He was arguing that having a HOF QB isn’t that important to Super Bowls. The fact that the vast majority of Super Bowls in the past 20 years were won by HOF QBs destroys the point. The only non HOF winners I can think of are Eli, Flacco and  Foles

[onmyown]

There are three things super bowl contenders have in common since Panthers inception...in order (season stats, not post season)

1. Top defense

2. Top oline

3. Top qb

There are anomalies but what’s also interesting are QB stats from Super Bowls/playoffs. For the most part they’re atrocious. Perhaps because in these games both teams ‘play smart’ for the majority of the game.

The only success if 1 and 2 are missing is a HOF qb.

Brady skews a lot of these points but, usually 1 or 2 is a year by year thing. So 3 offers consistency. There is a reason it’s the ‘85 Bears or 00’ Ravens or 19’ 49ers. They simply don’t last. They’re harder to put together.

So while 1 and 2 are more in common, 3 has has the chance of consistency.

1 and 2 involve 17 players, not one. However, if you can put together a top defense and top oline you will be a contender even with average QB play. Numerous examples.

Great QB play and poor defense and oline will never make you competitive. It just doesn’t happen, there are no examples.

HOF does not equal Super Bowls. It’s just much much easier to do it with one.

A top defense is what equals Super Bowls. There is just absolutely no way around that. And oline. Both more than QB.

There are only 3-4 examples of a poor defense going to the SB and all examples include a HOF QB or Eli Manning going super sayan on the pats OR the defense someone became elite in the post season after being trash in the regular season.

Edited March 27, 2021 by onmyown

[Dog Runner]

Aaron Rodgers - 3 MVP awards, one SB appearance in 16 years

Drew Brees. - 13 time All Pro, NFL leader in career pass completions, career completion percentage, and regular season passing yards , one SB appearance in 20 years

[raleigh-panther]

23 hours ago, Dog Runner said:

QB - The most important position in Football ?

HOF QB’s and SB appearances (some future)

Aaron Rodgers - 1 SB in 15 years

 Drew Brees - 1 SB in 19 years

Matt Ryan -1 SB in 13 years

Cam Newton - 1 SB in 10 years

Dan Marino - 1 SB in 17 years

Phillip Rivers - 0 SB in 16 years

Andrew Luck - 0 SB in 8 years

Brett Favre - 2 SB in 19 years

Russell Wilson - 2 SB in 11 years

Lots of HOF QB’s with small amount of SB appearances.  We can’t trade away the store    to get a qb.  A  HOF QB doesn’t guarantee success.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tom Brady skews that number to start with 

4 of those QBs are questionable for the HOF 

If you meant first rd, different story but Brady skews that as well 

the fact is the number of Bradysand Russell Wilsons are rare 

Brees was a second rd 

Edited March 27, 2021 by raleigh-panther