Super League

[Ja Rhule]

Before I add my 0.02 I would like to hear yours. 

[Shocker]

I have very little info on this personally but will definitely be really interesting to see how this works out.  

Jose already out at Tot.  That was fast.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Shocker

[Ja Rhule]

21 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I have very little info on this personally but will definitely be really interesting to see how this works out.  

Jose already out at Tot.  That was fast.

I mean... I cannot blame big teams for wanting more money.  Why Arsenal or Manchester United can’t make the CL but some team from Kazakhstan can?  Then they split revenue 50/50 when super team payroll is 1000% higher...  CL makes almost 100% of revenue from Super team... then takes 50% and give it to no name team.  These small teams know they won’t win anything and their goal is to make CL to get paid but super teams are not allowed to do it for revenue.  Soccer is not like NFL and not revenue sharing business model so transfer and other things directly impacted by revenue they make.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Blitzed through a few articles this morning and still don't get it. Keep in mind I barely follow soccer.

So, there's the Champions League, sponsored by UEFA. How will this Super League differ? I mean, there are already WAY too many tournaments, cups, etc. Is UEFA only pissy because they won't see a dime? Or is there legit beef to be found? Are they saying these clubs will pull out of Champions League and only do Super League instead?

Edited April 19, 2021 by Brooklyn 3.0

[Ja Rhule]

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Blitzed through a few articles this morning and still don't get it. Keep in mind I barely follow soccer.

So, there's the Champions League, sponsored by UEFA. How will this Super League differ? I mean, there are already WAY too many tournaments, cups, etc. Is UEFA only pissy because they won't see a dime? Or is there legit beef to be found? Are they saying these clubs will pull out of Champions League and only do Super League instead?

No more top teams in Champions League or Europa league.  Super League would be part of UEFA but bunch of little teams will get massive $$$ cuts and the money will go to big teams instead.

Super teams basically say the current structure puts a bunch of shitty teams into competition.  Let them duke it out and then put 5 best teams to complete with super teams.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Ja Rhule

[klumme]

European soccer is not the same as the closed system you guys have in the US. I love NFL, NBA etc but soccer is build on a whole other pyrmaide stucture. In soccer you can actually earn your way to the top. This is not about earning money for the clubs, its about earning money for some American, Russian or Arabic idiot.  They take over 100 years of history and pis it away to earn more money for them self.

Hopefully the FA, Premier League, LA Liga, Serie A, UEFA and FIFA will ban them from everything. Ban the players from playing on their national teams etc. Let the UK makes rules that the 6 english clubs can not use international players. Force them to change their city names. 

Been a Gunner for 25 years and that stopped yesterday. fug Kroenke that fat piece of poo. fug the Rams

[Ja Rhule]

2 hours ago, klumme said:

European soccer is not the same as the closed system you guys have in the US. I love NFL, NBA etc but soccer is build on a whole other pyrmaide stucture. In soccer you can actually earn your way to the top. This is not about earning money for the clubs, its about earning money for some American, Russian or Arabic idiot.  They take over 100 years of history and pis it away to earn more money for them self.

Hopefully the FA, Premier League, LA Liga, Serie A, UEFA and FIFA will ban them from everything. Ban the players from playing on their national teams etc. Let the UK makes rules that the 6 english clubs can not use international players. Force them to change their city names. 

Been a Gunner for 25 years and that stopped yesterday. fug Kroenke that fat piece of poo. fug the Rams

You got to realized that UEFA and FIFA allowed that to happen with their garbage financial fair play rule and allowing teams like Man City to use 3rd party companies to funnel fake sponsorship moneys.  They were all getting bribed and getting a piece of that pie... Now these teams turn around and fug them hard.  It’s actually pretty funny.  
 

UEFA and FIFA won’t do anything because FIFA Player Association is siding with the players.

Tell me... why a team from Greece should make the same money in CL as Bayern and Real?  Greek team roster is garbage and they will never win anything but they will be making out like the bandits just qualifying for CL...  Fact... the world watches big clubs with superstars.  When CL game is on between Braga and Zenit, no one gives a poo but they get the same money as Bayern and PSG game.  One PSG player makes more a year than 50% of Zenit whole team payroll.  See how financially biased and unfair it is to big teams?  They asked UEFA/CL to change it but were told to deal with it... so they deal with it.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Ja Rhule

[Harbingers]

3 hours ago, klumme said:

European soccer is not the same as the closed system you guys have in the US. I love NFL, NBA etc but soccer is build on a whole other pyrmaide stucture. In soccer you can actually earn your way to the top. This is not about earning money for the clubs, its about earning money for some American, Russian or Arabic idiot.  They take over 100 years of history and pis it away to earn more money for them self.

Hopefully the FA, Premier League, LA Liga, Serie A, UEFA and FIFA will ban them from everything. Ban the players from playing on their national teams etc. Let the UK makes rules that the 6 english clubs can not use international players. Force them to change their city names. 

Been a Gunner for 25 years and that stopped yesterday. fug Kroenke that fat piece of poo. fug the Rams

And lose all their revenue to a the ownership circles? Do you think fans are just going to stop cheering for their  100 year history of clubs? Even if they are complaining now, nah that ain’t going to happen. Why? Because all the clubs that started this are the biggest earners in soccer, they are all winners.

Everything else is hyperbole.

[klumme]

9 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

You got to realized that UEFA and FIFA allowed that to happen with their garbage financial fair play rule and allowing teams like Man City to use 3rd party companies to funnel fake sponsorship moneys.  They were all getting bribed and getting a piece of that pie... Now these teams turn around and fug them hard.  It’s actually pretty funny.  
 

UEFA and FIFA won’t do anything because FIFA Player Association is siding with the players.

Tell me... why a team from Greece should make the same money in CL as Bayern and Real?  Greek team roster is garbage and they will never win anything but they will be making out like the bandits just qualifying for CL...  Fact... the world watches big clubs with superstars.  When CL game is on between Braga and Zenit, no one gives a poo but they get the same money as Bayern and PSG game.  One PSG player makes more a year than 50% of Zenit whole team payroll.  See how financially biased and unfair it is to big teams?  They asked UEFA/CL to change it but were told to deal with it... so they deal with it.

Agree. Soccer did not die the other day. It died the moment the clubs allowed rich idiots to use them as a toy. So the 12 clubs did not kill soccer, they just hold a big party on its grave. 

The rumour is, that UEFA will removed Man City, Real Madrid and Chelsea from the Champions League this friday. The local leagues will look to remove them from their domestic leagues. I hope all this will happen. Most likey the Fifa contracts with the players will be terminated and the players will be free to go to another club. 

The last part.. Well first of all they do not get the same. If you win you get more money. But yes the fee to enter the league is shared as it should be. They have qualified for the same tournament. They get way more money from their domestic leagues from TV money. Its not like the clubs do not make any money, they just want more and they dont want to work for it. For instance my club Arsenal, the have been poo for years, and now they are a part of this without ever beeing good enough. Hell Put Aston Villa or Nottingham Forrest in the Super League, at least they have actually won the Champions League before. 

The structure in european football is builded that way, so every team in Europe have a chance to play and be the best. That is the foundation of the entire structure. Soccer as we now it has now died. 

[klumme]

8 hours ago, Harbingers said:

And lose all their revenue to a the ownership circles? Do you think fans are just going to stop cheering for their  100 year history of clubs? Even if they are complaining now, nah that ain’t going to happen. Why? Because all the clubs that started this are the biggest earners in soccer, they are all winners.

Everything else is hyperbole.

I you lived on this side of the pond, you will see how much power the fans have. Just see how Red Bull Leipizig is treated everywere they go in Germany. Everyone hates them. Hell look how the 12 clubs fans have turned on them. 

Oh and this ist not all winners. And none of the 6 club form the UK was even a founding father of Brittish football. So they use the history to make more money for an owner sitting in China, Russia, US ord in the Middle East.

[Shocker]

Chelsea dropped out of the ECL today.  The whole idea kind of wreaked of greed anyway.  The champions league is awesome.  Hope they stick to what works here.

[klumme]

Yeah.. And some say that Man City, Atletico and Barcelona is on the out also. There have been demonstration in London before Chelseas match tonight. The pressure from fans is becomming to much.  

Interesting to see how long the Kroenke, Glazers will keep going. Super League is dead.

[klumme]

And now the people behind this poo is going too. Woodward and Agnelli are gone. fug them. The Fans have won. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Aaaaaand it's dead.