Darnold’s Upside

[HardcoreHokie]

6 hours ago, HardcoreHokie said:

You’re the GM and everything is equal:  Ryan Tannehill or Sam Darnold?

Nobody actually responded to this.  Who would you rather start tomorrow and the rest of this year? 

[1usctrojan]

Interestingly, Carson Palmer thinks Sam is a lot like him.  Carson with a stronger arm, Sam more mobile.  Same quiet leadership, likes to be one of the guys, respectful of everyone.

[iamhubby1]

36 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

There should be no issue, but since when does an agenda require a valid issue?  Points are points.
 

you and I know Sam has never been a running QB, but he is a mobile QB who appears to be taking what the defense  is giving him….and for the last four games, those defenses have given him open lanes to run in TDs.   He looks to me like he’s gliding them in, not bulldozing his way in.

 

I hadn't realized this until you brought it up, but most of his TDs have pretty much been of the walk-in untouched variety. The kid has impressed.

 

5 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

Interestingly, Carson Palmer thinks Sam is a lot like him.  Carson with a stronger arm, Sam more mobile.  Same quiet leadership, likes to be one of the guys, respectful of everyone.

 

The face of the franchise for the next oh, 15 years. I tell ya what. lol

[iamhubby1]

9 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Nobody actually responded to this.  Who would you rather start tomorrow and the rest of this year? 

 

For me, it's no doubt Sam. From this point Sam has a longer shelf life.

[uncfan888]

11 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Nobody actually responded to this.  Who would you rather start tomorrow and the rest of this year? 

Tannehill has proven he can quarterback in this league. Sam is trying to prove it and he's got a good start. Right now, I'd pick Tannehill but that could change 

[1usctrojan]

11 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

I hadn't realized this until you brought it up, but most of his TDs have pretty much been of the walk-in untouched variety. The kid has impressed.

 

it’s those basketball player moves. 

[iamhubby1]

9 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

it’s those basketball player moves. 

 

Some kids play all the sports, and get a well rounded athletic background. Some kids specialize, and don't get that extra muscle/brain training.

 

Give me the well rounded athlete every time.

[iamhubby1]

Anyone else notice the high amount of 4th down INTs this year? What is up with that. Don't kids learn to not do that in the back yard at  10?

[SBBlue]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

To say his FLOOR is a QB who has been very good his past several years in Tennessee would be wrong. Tannehill has proven he can play good football with the right system/players. Darnold looks like he has so far this season, but to call a proven solid NFL QB his FLOOR is a stretch. If that’s his floor, meaning the absolute worst he can be, go ahead and extend him 5 years. Any decent staff can get a player to play above his FLOOR. We have already seen Darnold’s floor. It’s the Jets Darnold and he has already shown he can be much better than that. He also doesn’t have the arm talent for Rodgers to be his ceiling. Darnold has a gear arm, but Rodgers is just on another level. 

We'll see.  Lets revisit this at the end of the season.

[SBBlue]

7 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

Anyone else notice the high amount of 4th down INTs this year? What is up with that. Don't kids learn to not do that in the back yard at  10?

Some ints are smarter than others.  There are strategies for a 4th down int.  If I'm qb and time is short, I'm giving up the ball at the line of scrimmage  on incomplete anyway.   If I launch deep and the cb is stupid enough to catch and not knock down the ball and we tackle him, its worse field position.  If I throw a short one, it might be better for the cb to int and try to pick 6.  Depends on the line of scrimmage, and location of the int.

[SBBlue]

48 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Nobody actually responded to this.  Who would you rather start tomorrow and the rest of this year? 

Sam, with a weaker OL in most stats, has a higher passer rating, qbr and yards, and he hasn't lost to the Jags. 

And Sam is our QB. 

So I choose Sam.

[SBBlue]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Are you going to speak to the manager too?

This isn't a restaurant frankw.  Come back to the real world here with us.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, SBBlue said:

Some ints are smarter than others.  There are strategies for a 4th down int.  If I'm qb and time is short, I'm giving up the ball at the line of scrimmage  on incomplete anyway.   If I launch deep and the cb is stupid enough to catch and not knock down the ball and we tackle him, its worse field position.  If I throw a short one, it might be better for the cb to int and try to pick 6.  Depends on the line of scrimmage, and location of the int.

 

 

I'm sorry, but there is never a good reason to Intercept a 4th down pass. You get the ball at the line of scrimmage. It is never a good idea to put your team 10, 20 or more yards past the LOS.

 

You cannot guarantee a Pick 6. Just knock the pass down, and get off the field. I learned that in the backyard at what, 10 years old. When a teenager comes up and knocks you on your azz for it. You learn to not do it.

[HardcoreHokie]

Aaron Rodgers didn’t start a single NFL game until he was 25. 
 

Darnold just turned 24 and has 38 NFL starts.  
 

People are way too early to judge, but I see serious talent and football IQ in Sam.  Tons of potential.  

(Dan Orlavsky and Terry Bradshaw seem to agree as well).