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More behind the scenes info on the Mayfield trade


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55 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

And yet, Baker STILL wanted to come here.

(although seriously -- have we heard from people who know whether Rhule truly is a players' coach vs what we see and comment on here?)

Not originally...

Early word was that he was as disinterested in us as some of our guys were in him.

That's why the "talking to him" thing was important. He had to be sold on the idea.

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Just now, poundaway said:

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Our buddy Ellis for one.

Heck, even Gantt addressed the question (I think in one of his Ask the Old Guy columns) confirming at the time that Rhule does still have final say but has been asked/suggested to listen more to those around him.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Our buddy Ellis for one.

 

You mean this one where he said Rhule appears to still be lead chair?   It says the exact opposite of what you said.    What exactly from John Ellis says that he has some source that Tepper reigned in Rhule? 

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4 minutes ago, poundaway said:

You mean this one where he said Rhule appears to still be lead chair?   It says the exact opposite of what you said.    What exactly from John Ellis says that he has some source that Tepper reigned in Rhule? 

You're not exactly good at reading, are you? 😆

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i mean clearly from a public perception standpoint the Carolina Panthers intentionally altered Matt Rhule’s availability and presence after his nightmare season. That alone tells you their has been a shift in how he is being viewed.  They made him disappear and when he returned the GM was the lead publicly on all things.  A deviation from his prior seasons.  Plus there is the fact the HC that was booed out of BOA last year until Tepper brought Cam in….had his staff revamped with at least 3 guys that could take his job temporarily and all 3 be more qualified for the role than Rhule was day 1.  

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5 minutes ago, CRA said:

i mean clearly from a public perception standpoint the Carolina Panthers intentionally altered Matt Rhule’s availability and presence after his nightmare season. That alone tells you their has been a shift in how he is being viewed.  They made him disappear and when he returned the GM was the lead publicly on all things.  A deviation from his prior seasons.  Plus there is the fact the HC that was booed out of BOA last year until Tepper brought Cam in….had his staff revamped with at least 3 guys that could take his job temporarily and all 3 be more qualified for the role than Rhule was day 1.  

Or Rhule just chose that he didn't want to deal with the press. 

He fired his OC, so he had to replace that.  As for the other staff, some were fired and others left of their own accord. 

It doesn't matter, you're going to believe whatever you want anyway.

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