Panthers called about Mims...

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

Hindsight is.........hindsight

Yeah and hindsight is how you judge personnel moves. Not before.

[SOJA]

considering our only draft picks next year are 

1, 2, 5, and 7 I'd say it was a good idea we didnt waste any more picks 

[Basbear]

30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

But that was why Gilmore wasn't worth it. We went 2-6 when he was here and we lost to Tampa anyway. It was ultimately pointless. 

True, he and Cam could not save the season.

You have to factor in at the timing of the trade, yes the out-come was poor. But at the time, panthers just lost 1st rounder JC horn and looking playoffs. Plus if Gilmore landed on the bucs, he could have pushed them into a long playoff run. Minor but screw any success for the yucs. Totally understand the move and agreed when it happened. The result was not good and Fineserrererere could have got a comp pick out of him too. 

Plus *not talking about Sam*. Many of these trades are for 6th and 7th rounder........ Panthers just lost a late 7th due to depth. No issues thus far, but if 3s 4s 5s start getting tossed around with poor results.......I'll channel my mr.11 bitach mode. 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Basbear

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

True, he and Cam could not save the season.

You have to factor in at the timing of the trade, yes the out-come was poor. But at the time, panthers just lost 1st rounder JC horn and looking playoffs. Plus if Gilmore landed on the bucs, he could have pushed them into a long playoff run. Minor but screw any success for the yucs. Totally understand the move and agreed when it happened. The result was not good and Fineserrererere could have got a comp pick out of him too. 

Plus *not talking about Sam*. Many of these trades are for 6th and 7th rounder........ Panthers just lost a late 7th due to depth. No issues thus far, but if 3s 4s 5s start getting tossed around with poor results.......I'll channel my mr.11 bitach mode. 

Yeah, the failures are largely for lower round picks but this can easily go the other way. If Henderson doesn't pan out and Baker only sticks around for a year with modest team success, now we are looking at a scenario where almost none of Fitterer's trades have been very successful.

The same argument could easily be used for Daley or Little. It isn't like we got a windfall. In Little's case we turned a 2nd rounder into a 7th. So those aren't exactly home runs, other than the fact that none of us even believed it was possible to get that out of them.

So that's why I don't fall in mine with the "Fitterer is a genius with trades" crowd. I don't see a genius yet. I see some definite potential to be a very shrewd guy, pending some players panning out. But I also see that he could just be a guy appearing to doing a lot and accomplishing very little.

Time will tell. 

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, the failures are largely for lower round picks but this can easily go the other way. If Henderson doesn't pan out and Baker only sticks around for a year with modest team success, now we are looking at a scenario where almost none of Fitterer's trades have been very successful.

The same argument could easily be used for Daley or Little. It isn't like we got a windfall. In Little's case we turned a 2nd rounder into a 7th. So those aren't exactly home runs, other than the fact that none of us even believed it was possible to get that out of them.

So that's why I don't fall in mine with the "Fitterer is a genius with trades" crowd. I don't see a genius yet. I see some definite potential to be a very shrewd guy, pending some players panning out. But I also see that he could just be a guy appearing to doing a lot and accomplishing very little.

Time will tell. 

Far as little and daley, shocked he got ANY picks/player for either. SHOCKED. 

 

I think hes putting a big effort into adding team talent. No GM is going to win 10 trades in row. Hes also going for low-cost high reward type of trades, thats what I like my GM to do. I do not think hes a genius, but very simply hes not either gettlegut or Smarty "gave me a" Herniay. Thus by default, he is WINNING..... Rhule is not the only one that needs a good showing this year, finesser does need some good results too *form all the trades/draft picks. 

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Far as little and daley, shocked he got ANY picks/player for either. SHOCKED. 

 

I think hes putting a big effort into adding team talent. No GM is going to win 10 trades in row. Hes also going for low-cost high reward type of trades, thats what I like my GM to do. I do not think hes a genius, but very simply hes not either gettlegut or Smarty "gave me a" Herniay. Thus by default, he is WINNING..... Rhule is not the only one that needs a good showing this year, finesser does need some good results too *form all the trades/draft picks. 

Yeah but we also might just have our bar set too low.

TBD.