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13 minutes ago, NAS said:

Never understood why Kirk Cousins was never considered a franchise QB. Clearly he can play 

Because he's basically a .500 QB with one double digit win season. Four total playoff games with a 1-3 record in them. He's basically a high level game manager. He'll get you what you are. Put a good team around him and you'll be good. Put a bad team around him and you'll be bad. Put a mediocre team around him and you'll be mediocre. He doesn't lift the team above the expectations of what the rest of the team minus him would lead you to expect out of that team.

Previous teammates have basically flat out said he's a stat padder. He's more interested in how his stat line turns out than trying to make the plays that will win the game. Which is pretty much exactly how his career has played out. With his stats you'd expect his team's to have a much better W-L record.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RJK said:

Kirk cousins is very delhomme like. Eventually those ducks he throws up will get picked. 

He's kinda the anti-Delhomme. Jake's stat lines usually didn't look great, but the guy made the winning plays when the chips were down. Cousins' stat line often looks great and then he folds like a cheap suit when it matters most.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because he's basically a .500 QB with one double digit win season. Four total playoff games with a 1-3 record in them. He's basically a high level game manager. He'll get you what you are. Put a good team around him and you'll be good. Put a bad team around him and you'll be bad. Put a mediocre team around him and you'll be mediocre. He doesn't lift the team above the expectations of what the rest of the team minus him would lead you to expect out of that team.

Previous teammates have basically flat out said he's a stat padder. He's more interested in how his stat line turns out than trying to make the plays that will win the game. Which is pretty much exactly how his career has played out. Worth his stats you'd expect his team's to have a much better W-L record.

 

 

Good point, Diggs wanted out for a reason. Thielen was bitching about it too around the same time. 

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's kinda the anti-Delhomme. Jake's stat lines usually didn't look great, but the guy made the winning plays when the chips were down. Cousins' stat line often looks great and then he folds like a cheap suit when it matters most.

People seen to have selective memory about Jake.

He made a lot of incredible perfect throws.

 

He threw a fade that went straight up and straight down making it very very hard to intercept. 

Also had one of the prettiest back shoulder balls I've ever seen.

He had velocity placement and guts

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3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Good point, Diggs wanted out for a reason. Thielen was bitching about it too around the same time. 

Remember when Dak Prescott got hella pissed when Amari Cooper called him the "black Kirk Cousins"? The guy has a reputation in the league. Maybe it's fair, maybe it's not. Maybe he'll change it with some better team success. But he has a reputation.

 

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Remember when Dak Prescott got hella pissed when Amari Cooper called him the "black Kirk Cousins"? The guy has a reputation in the league. Maybe it's fair, maybe it's not. Maybe he'll change it with some better team success. But he has a reputation.

 

I've seen his jesus van, that's all I really know about him besides Diggs and Thielen bitching about him not taking shots early in the season a few years ago

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