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Hendon Hooker, QB Tennessee

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Don't feel bad, we all are. So are NFL talent evaluators. There are busts and steals every year and every draft class would look a LOT different of you could redraft them a few years later.

I dont think its as much talent evaluation as it is system/coaching/development.  I mean everyone on Gods green earth could see Josh Allen has all the tools he just needed a detailed 1-2-3 year plan on how to get better.  He goes to 80% of the other teams and his ass is out of the league by year 4.  The first couple of years are crucial for a young qb and I think we are in a perfect spot to try the same

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20 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont think its as much talent evaluation as it is system/coaching/development.  I mean everyone on Gods green earth could see Josh Allen has all the tools he just needed a detailed 1-2-3 year plan on how to get better.  He goes to 80% of the other teams and his ass is out of the league by year 4.  The first couple of years are crucial for a young qb and I think we are in a perfect spot to try the same

How many QBs have made the type of accuracy improvements Allen has though? It's easy to say in hindsight that all he needed were massive mechanical overhauls but those almost never pan out. You need both. You need good evaluation and good coaching.

 

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On 1/13/2023 at 9:48 AM, Varking said:

I think many folks were worried about his injury past, only to watch him get injured again, while looking awful in the preseason. 

I liked him a lot. I fell for him as a qb when he had a really bad game against LSU i think his sophmore year. This is from way before the draft but its how i felt. I even said id be his huckleberry. Decent review of hooker on that site too if you search him.

https://www.draftdive.com/matt-corral-scouting-report/

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On 1/13/2023 at 10:36 AM, TheMaulClaw said:

No thanks. Non contact ACL injuries are a big red flag.

The ACL injury is the biggest red flag for me. I would have drafted him late first or early 2nd before the injury. Now he will be a longer range product. I like the OP’s thinking, just don’t think the Panthers have time to wait. I guess we all are thinking about the next Brock Purdy. 

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On 1/13/2023 at 12:18 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure he can. If the new regime's gameplan is to "pray for Maye".

We do need to give him a chance. You cannot go off of how he looked last year with the 4th string blocking for him during training camp. He never had a chance, it was all hype about the other quarterbacks. If we dismiss Corral without giving him a chance we are doing so at our own peril. 

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54 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

The ACL injury is the biggest red flag for me. I would have drafted him late first or early 2nd before the injury. Now he will be a longer range product. I like the OP’s thinking, just don’t think the Panthers have time to wait. I guess we all are thinking about the next Brock Purdy. 

The ACL can tear with both contact and noncontact maneuvers. Approximately 70 percent of injuries are noncontact and occur when the athlete is trying to change directions, slow down or land from a jump.

You made me Google--does that change your mind?  I saw Thomas Davis (at OTAs) injure his ACL (the second one) I happened to be looking right at him--and he was doing agility/warmup drills.  Full Disclosure:  I am not a medical doctor.

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53 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

We do need to give him a chance. You cannot go off of how he looked last year with the 4th string blocking for him during training camp. He never had a chance, it was all hype about the other quarterbacks. If we dismiss Corral without giving him a chance we are doing so at our own peril. 

No QB looks good without the OL doing its job--they were horrible.

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