Stafford/Carr Comparison

[Xtreme]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah give me the QB in the draft if he is a bust then oh well.

 

Carr is taking this team nowhere. He had weapons in Las Vegas and still couldn't win.

 

You think with lesser weapons he's taking this team anywhere?

That's literally Stanford's story before he went on to win the SB. Sometimes, these QBs just play for bad coaches. 

[csx]

Teams wanted to trade for Stafford. There was a competition for him. 

Similar story doesn't mean they are on the same level. I don't think any team thinks so or he would have been acquired already

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, csx said:

I thought I typed not on level. I certainly meant to

I thought it could have been a typo but figured it was still worth putting the info out there to back up the rebuttal to this desperate thread. Hey I want to be a contender again too but some fans here on the huddle are developing a condition where they perceive any QB who might give them the time of day to be the next sure thing. Did the same thing with Darnold the same thing with Mayfield and now again with a much older and only slightly more consistent QB coming off one of his worst statistical seasons with one of the best receivers in the league. What could go wrong

[csx]

27 minutes ago, Xtreme said:

I mean, he's more of a sure thing than any rookie QB. 

He's a sure fire mediocre QB. Not what you want

[Xtreme]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Stafford is the only QB.

 

Name me more. You just naming a QB who got traded to a loaded roster who won.

 

We don't have the Rams roster dude. Carr should go to the 49ers if he wants to be Stafford.

 

You act like we loaded. Carr ain't taking us very far.

Peyton Manning. 

Stafford passed for nearly 5000 yards that season. Surrounded by talent or not, that's impressive. But couldn't you make the same argument regarding Stroud and Young? Both were on loaded rosters filled with 4* & 5* recruits. How isn't that the same?

[Xtreme]

2 minutes ago, csx said:

He's a sure fire mediocre QB. Not what you want

Nothing says being mediocre than being in the top 5 for passing yards and completion % after the 2021 season. You right. 

[csx]

There's little to no chance the ownership or coaching staff is going to repeat the pattern that doomed bott the past 3 years 

[frankw]

@Xtreme

My guy. He played in 15 games and had a 60.8 completion % with Davante Adams compared to Darnold the bust who had 58.6% through 6 games. And he's several years older than Sam. This is who you want to pay 35 million dollars a year?

Edited February 25, 2023 by frankw

[csx]

8 minutes ago, Xtreme said:

Nothing says being mediocre than being in the top 5 for passing yards and completion % after the 2021 season. You right. 

He's not getting signed here so it's all academic

Edited February 25, 2023 by csx

[Xtreme]

6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So you putting Carr in the same league as Manning?

 

Cmon man just stop. You can't compare him to Stafford because the situation would be totally different. Rams were the favorites the moment they traded for Stafford.

 

We wouldn't be the favorites signing Carr. Our roster just isn't as great as that Rams roster was.

I wasn't comparing Manning to Stafford. You asked for another name, I gave you another name. Agree to disagree. 

[Xtreme]

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

@Xtreme

My guy. He played in 15 games and had a 60.8 completion % with Davante Adams compared to Darnold the bust who had 58.6% through 6 games. And he's several years older than Sam. This is who you want to pay 35 million dollars a year?

Bad coaching. Very similar to how Mayfield went on to actually play decent after being picked up by the Rams. 35 million is a bit high, but I would rather drop 35 million on Carr than drop multiple 1st round picks to get a QB that was surrounded by insane talent. And if he ends up being a bust, that will set us back for YEARS. 

[Xtreme]

11 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Bad coaching?

My man he's been in the league for 9 years.

 

You want to pay 35 mil for a 32 year old QB who needs good coaching to be successful?

 

That has disaster written all over it. If the QB needs a good coach we might as well go the cheaper route and draft and develop one.

And during those 9-years, he had three different head coaches. So, yes, bad coaching. Just like Stafford. 

[Xtreme]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

All im getting from you is you think Carr and Stafford are literally the same QB.

 

Have a good night dude.

Not really, but they do have some similarities. But seriously, good discussion. Take care! 

[mav1234]

2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What I don't understand is if this guy is as great as everyone is saying why has there only been 2 teams that have shown interest?

 

He's the best available QB and can be had right now but seems like teams still waiting on the actual legit QB's Rodgers and Lamar to make a move.

There will be more than 2 teams interested - it's still very early, I think.