Josh Klein on the recent Bryce “smoke”

[Jon Snow]

53 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

This is literally the opposite? There are talks of taking Anderson or trading down if Bryce is gone.

Smokescreen.  They want the Panthers to take Young. They want Stroud. 

[stratocatter]

Eric4280, I guess the point would be Houston could trade and assure themselves of Young. They are not doing that so far, indicating they don’t value him higher than the #2 pick. If that. 
On the face of it. 
I definitely put stock in the cerebral aspect of the position and the published results seem to show that test is worthwhile and a fairly good indicator of what direction they will head in the pros. 

If Stroud is marginally behind Young (if given that Young scored in a place that places him in elite) that is not a huge concern but yes if he scored down in the 60s then I would drop my evaluation, which is really only that he is clearly the more NFL ready of the two, physically and is good enough at the mental. Feel like he can grow better with experience also. 
I have enough doubt about Stroud as it is that I would not have given DJ and all those picks for either of them. And I admit that I before I looked at Young he was off my list for a reason to trade up to 1 solely because of his size. But when it happened I did see some things that made me decide not to keep him in consideration. 
If we had stayed at 9 and either fell I get it. I could get it if we just happened to earn the 1 and didn’t have to pay triple for it too. Maybe I wouldn’t go that far. There is a lot of risk with both players.

Anyhow I don’t know how to translate this test’s numbers to time, shortest time wins the prize. So say 90 is x amount of time, 60 seems like it is significantly slower. 

If it were 95 to 85 what does that really mean? Detailed answers might include more complex factors than I can’t assess, but for instance there may be tricks of the coaching trade to compensate for 85 as far as setting up your playbook and stuff like that. Everybody that plays a good brand of NFL QB is probably not 97th percentile and up. 

So how slow is too slow? Anyhow, if that is Stroud’s negative I would consider it important, if substantial. 
But to me that would knock both of them out. Stroud is a beautiful passer and has good size but I’d want to put the proper value on the player as Gettleman used to say. 

Edited April 13, 2023 by stratocatter