Franchise Quarterback

[carolinanimal]

What is a franchise quarterback? i see this phrase thrown around so much here. but what really is a franchise quarterback?

How are they identified?

what rounds do they come from in the draft?

Do they take time to develop or are the franchise QB's right away?

what numbers do they need to be considered franchise qbs?

Also how many of these franchise guys do you see in the upcoming draft?

will said draft pick be afforded the same time to develop in real game time as matt moore or will he be booed after 3 games? if so why?

[Cpt slay a ho]

it all really depends on what that specific team is built for.......for example why would our franchise want a peyton manning when all we need is a Big ben.big ben is more likely to be available then another peyton and big ben would fit us more since we run the ball unlike manning who passes alot

[Brooklyn Bully]

A franchise QB is a QB who can win the game all by himself, even if your run game or defense is having a bad day. He will be your qb for many many years, avoid injury as much as possible, lead with authority, have the trust of the entire team and coaching staff, be able to think on his feet, and have all the technical aspects needed in the NFL today.

They usually come within the first three rounds, but have come later.

Most have what it takes from the get go, though they may suffer their first season (Peyton Manning). Others have to come off the bench (Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers).

Most franchise QBs will be in the Top 5, stats wise, every season for QBs; and if they have a long career, will start stacking the numbers in the all-time categories.

This draft? Maybe 2-3, but that's impossible to know. You won't know until they get on an NFL field.

If it's understood we ARE rebuilding, the crowd may cut him some slack. But there will always be boos, and always people saying, "he's not ready yet".

[Sam Mills Fan]

it all really depends on what that specific team is built for.......for example why would our franchise want a peyton manning when all we need is a Big ben.big ben is more likely to be available then another peyton and big ben would fit us more since we run the ball unlike manning who passes alot

Have you considered that we run the ball a lot BECAUSE we don't have a franchise quarterback? Something tells me that if Peyton Manning was our quarterback, we would be throwing it a lot more.

[Sam Mills Fan]

You build your system around your quarterback, not the other way around. We haven't had an elite quarterback since '99-'00 Beuerlein and that's why we've ran so much this decade.

[Mesmer]

You guys are like girls, putting labels on everything.

You just need a guy that can go out there, and make accurate throws when you need him to convert. A guy that can make the defense pay for 8 in the box by hitting intermediate routes and the occasional deep ball. Not overthrowing 40 year old receivers by 10 miles.

[Cpt slay a ho]

cheap shot at moore aye....people always say you need to run the ball in dec.

i'm not sold on thats the reason we run the ball either,sounds like john fox football...play defense,and run the ball.

even peyton would struggle with our receiving core

[Kevin Greene]

What is a franchise quarterback? i see this phrase thrown around so much here. but what really is a franchise quarterback?

How are they identified?

[Brooklyn Bully]

even peyton would struggle with our receiving core

No, he wouldn't.

Rookie - Pierre Garcon (who?) 49 rec, 772 yds, 4 TDs

Rookie - Austin Collie (who?) 50 rec, 540 yds, 6 Tds

And of course he has Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark.

Peyton could produce numbers from Smith, Moose, King, and Rosario.

[Mesmer]

Not to be confused with

[guyinchesapeake]

A 'franchise QB' delivers when you need him to the most. Sometimes it's what they DON'T do that defines them, as in not turning the ball over, or trying to play outside his abilities or the teams. However, they tend to be able to lead their teams back from deficits, and if they have the ball in the final minutes and a score is needed, they usually deliver. Rothlisberger has shown that ability. He ain't pretty at any time, but he extends plays, and when his team is healthy, he does a good job with them. While some may take shots at his SB performances, he does have 2 rings, and his drive in the final moments of this past SB was one for the ages.

You sure as heck can't identify one in the draft, too many busts prove that. On the other hand, FQBs' like Brady and Montana were late round, or at least post first round, selections. It appears that it takes a combination of several significant factors, like the proper offensive system, good coaches who know how to develop a QB, and the opportunity to show what they can do.

I think Jake fit the definition of a FQB thru last season. However, he has never been very successful whan he's had to pass more than 30 times in any given game. FQBs' can be gun slingers (Favre and Manning for a couple of examples) or 'game managers'. Jake fits in the latter definition. He reminds me of Jim Plunkett when Plunkett ended up with the Raiders and resurrected his career, except Plunkett actually won a couple SB rings. Aikmen was more manager than slinger, but was certainly a better overall QB than Jake ever was. You don't know a FQB until they actually earn the designation.

[micnificent28]

a franchise qb is a winner plane and simple. he gets it done with what he has around him. he wants the ball in his hands with the game on the line. a franchise qb delivers on 3 and long on a regular basis. i think he must have the arm to make all the throws and the pocket awarness to exstend drives. a franchise qb is someone when u draft him and its his first full season u see glimpses of the future and know he ll be the starter for the 7-10 seasons.

[jramsey4]

Not to be confused with

I am really starting to think that the Bears just are terrible at O, period. Think about Moose goes to them has average productivity we get him back and he looks like a totally different receiver (still the drops though). Benson looks like a sure fire bust and the Bengals get him and he becomes an every down back. Berrian looked better last year even with T Jack then he did with the Bears. I can't wait until the Bears want to move Jay I would still take him in a heartbeat. But for much less of course.

As others have said a Franchise QB really depends on the team and system. But the bottom line is a Franchise QB wins the close games and wins them by himself (see Manning, Brady, Brees etc). Jake IMO was a Franchise QB for a couple of years before the surgery.

[err456]

A 'franchise QB' delivers when you need him to the most. Sometimes it's what they DON'T do that defines them, as in not turning the ball over, or trying to play outside his abilities or the teams. However, they tend to be able to lead their teams back from deficits, and if they have the ball in the final minutes and a score is needed, they usually deliver. Rothlisberger has shown that ability. He ain't pretty at any time, but he extends plays, and when his team is healthy, he does a good job with them. While some may take shots at his SB performances, he does have 2 rings, and his drive in the final moments of this past SB was one for the ages.

You sure as heck can't identify one in the draft, too many busts prove that. On the other hand, FQBs' like Brady and Montana were late round, or at least post first round, selections. It appears that it takes a combination of several significant factors, like the proper offensive system, good coaches who know how to develop a QB, and the opportunity to show what they can do.

I think Jake fit the definition of a FQB thru last season. However, he has never been very successful whan he's had to pass more than 30 times in any given game. FQBs' can be gun slingers (Favre and Manning for a couple of examples) or 'game managers'. Jake fits in the latter definition. He reminds me of Jim Plunkett when Plunkett ended up with the Raiders and resurrected his career, except Plunkett actually won a couple SB rings. Aikmen was more manager than slinger, but was certainly a better overall QB than Jake ever was. You don't know a FQB until they actually earn the designation.

It's hard to call Jake a FQB. At one time he may have been close. He had what I would call franchise games but was inconsistent and had way to many lack luster games. I would call him a decent QB that found the perfect coach and team for his talent.

I think a true franchise QB is one that keeps fans in their seats because they know it's not over just because it may look bad at the time and does this on a consistent basis