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Young vs first the round QBs

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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24 minutes ago, Mage said:

I'm not worried about the numbers.  I said before the season I felt he was going to have a rookie season similar to Luck.  Both are high IQ players who are going to be aggressive and not settle for the easy throws.  Young didn't make bad reads; he did, however, underestimate how fast DBs break on the ball.  That will be fixed with more time in the league.  But I was impressed by his willingness to try and hit those tight windows.  

Luck's 1st Game - 23/45, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 52.9 QB Rating

Peyton Manning's whole first season...

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Peyton Manning's whole first season...

Exactly.

And look obviously before anyone says it, Peyton played in 1998, Bryce throwing that many picks would be concerning.  But the point is you can't judge a rookie QB based off the amount of picks they throw, how pretty their TD/INT ratio is, etc. Bryce is being asked to be a playmaker with a team lacking a lot of playmakers around him.  Mistakes will happen.  But today felt encouraging to me.  I saw a QB making the best read 9 times out of 10, I saw a QB willing to be aggressive and give his receivers a chance.  I think we need to give him more time to get in sync with these receivers, who are either very young (Mingo, Marshall) or in this system for the first time (Thielen, Hurst, Chark when he arrives). 

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

Well allow me to point out a few things. When we traded up to the first overall pick and forfeited our best WR and another first rounder there was an expectation or two. Nothing extreme like instant playoffs but just a basic low bar. Defeating the Desmond Ridder led Falcons would qualify. Today was dreadful.

I’d rather watch Fox ball. Single wing. A game in a torrential rainstorm without a forward pass thrown. Okay I exagerrate. But….

First thing this bunch did was mortgage the future to ensure we would be running short yardage dives from the gun. Didnt like the idea of it, hate the reality. It isnt pretty. 

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